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To: MHGinTN; sevenbak
>>>The reader will note that there is no word 'bone' given,

Either you have a short memory or are willfully trying to make sevenbak look bad. I recall having this exact same conversation with you about this scripture when I first started posting. You expressed indignation that I was trying to deceive people by missing the footnote. I'd post the actual quote from you about it but don't want to waste my time dredging it up. Feel free to check my post history.

>>>>nor does the Greek offer such an addition to the text.

Interesting you discuss the Greek. Your doctrines mirror those of the Greek philosophers not the early Christians who share the "Mormon" version of the Godhead.

The Doctrine of God and the Nature of Man

Your definition of God relies on extra biblical greek philosophy and is different than that preached by the early Christians.

Here's a few tidbits from the link.

Specifically, the phrase, "of one substance or essence," expresses a concept that was adopted and adapted from contemporary Greek philosophy, but was foreign to the thought of the original Christianity.

Xenophanes and Empedocles expressed similar ideas of what God must be like. Xenophanes (570-475 B.C.) conceived of "God as thought, as presence, as all powerful efficacy." He is one God--incorporeal, "unborn, eternal, infinite, . . . not moving at all, [and] beyond human imagination."18 And Empedocles (ca. 444 B.C.) claimed that God "does not possess a head and limbs similar to those of humans . . . . A spirit, a holy and inexpressible one . . . ."

From the Greek ousia. The Nicene Creed uses the word homoousios, meaning "of the same substance or essence." The common notion of the Trinity as a single person who dons three different masks in order to relate to humanity is actually a heresy called modalism, which was condemned by Catholic councils. Beisner, God in Three Persons,

The link has so much more. Including the actual quotes of the early Christians who abhorred the entrance of Greek philosophy into interpretation of the Bible. [Tertullian, Origen, Justin Martyr, Iraneus, Hippolytus Clement of Alexandria, Novatian, Lactantius, Eusebius etc.] Are you brave enough to really read it and respond?

You claim precedance of the Bible yet you use the language of the philosophers which early Christians condemned.

270 posted on 04/09/2007 8:42:15 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: MHGinTN; sevenbak; DelphiUser

Sorry, #270 Meant for DelphiUser,
MHGinTN’s post had no person listed in the To: I assumed it was sevebak


271 posted on 04/09/2007 8:46:49 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X= they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: Rameumptom

“You claim precedance of the Bible yet you use the language of the philosophers which early Christians condemned.” As attributed repeatedly, I quoted from YAda Yahweh ... if you want to attack, take it up with them. You and DelphiUser are doing a good ‘double team’, he in freepmail you on the thread. Nice. I think I’ll defer to hosepipe’s clear post.


272 posted on 04/09/2007 8:48:16 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Rameumptom

While I usually take credit for my own mistakes, I don’t think this post is meant for me.


279 posted on 04/09/2007 10:46:43 AM PDT by sevenbak
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