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Giuliani Defends Pro-Choice Stance
WNBC, NY ^ | April 5, 2007

Posted on 04/05/2007 11:53:02 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: dirtboy

That’s the only thing you saw, huh? Imagine that — dirtboy has reading comprehension problems.


81 posted on 04/05/2007 12:39:47 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Uniter? We don’t need no steeking uniters. Vote for me and my latest wife. Rudee the divider.......


82 posted on 04/05/2007 12:41:08 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Peach
And while you're at it, look up Stenberg v. Carhart.

Overturned Nebraska's PBA ban. Has major implications for SC's ban.

Dedided 5-4. Kennedy was in the minority this time. Alito joining the court should make it a 5-4 the other way. However, given Kennedy going back and forth on the abortion issue, it would be good to have one more judge that is a strict constructionist - by the dictionary's definition of such, not Rudy's.

So this does matter for state abortion laws, your feeble attempts to claim otherwise to the contrary.

83 posted on 04/05/2007 12:43:36 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: peekingfromabox
a scumbag ???

Nice intellect there cowboy.

84 posted on 04/05/2007 12:45:06 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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To: Peach
That’s the only thing you saw, huh? Imagine that — dirtboy has reading comprehension problems.

I read just fine. I've gone to several sites. Care to discuss the impact of Stenberg v. Carhart on state abortion restrictions? That's still standing SCOTUS precedent that hangs over SC's restrictions.

85 posted on 04/05/2007 12:45:08 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Peach
That’s the only thing you saw, huh?

Note the word "major restrictions". All the other SC laws are meant to make it more difficult to get an abortion, but do not block abortion. The ban after 12 weeks is the legislation most at risk from Roe as a precedent and Stenberg as a follow-up.

Both of which could be tossed with a real strict constructionist added to the court, as opposed to a Rudy-versioned strict constructionist.

86 posted on 04/05/2007 12:47:34 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: dirtboy

Gosh, and yet SC has greatly reduced the number of providers it permits to operate in this state and has greatly reduced the number of abortions in this state.

And like I said, last I knew, conservatives DEMANDED state’s rights. Sure, some feds have overturned some state laws regarding abortion, but not all laws by any means. If SC can do it, so can other states.

So toodles. I’ve had enough of your drama queen act for the day.


87 posted on 04/05/2007 12:50:01 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

typical from a NY liberal. Rude and no apologies.


88 posted on 04/05/2007 12:51:40 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody want a peanut.....)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“BASH: So you support taxpayer money or public funding for abortion in some cases?

GIULIANI: If it would deprive someone of a constitutional right, yes, if that’s the status of the law, then I would yes.”

Rudy “The Compassionate Conservative America’s Mayor” Giuliani doesn’t want to deprive someone of a ‘constitutional’ right because of money.

Think he’d worry about the deprivation of a real Constitutional right from someone who couldn’t afford a firearm?

Public weal for AR-15’s!

The GOP has drifted/morphed left far enough. I see no reason to grease it’s slide by supporting not just a RINO, but an OBVIOUS RINO.


89 posted on 04/05/2007 1:02:50 PM PDT by Hornet19 (Conservative from birth, Republican no more.)
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To: areafiftyone

I see these same names pretty much dumping on all the GOP presidential candidates. Just like they did in 2000. They’re a lot of things but Republican isn’t one of them.

Somehow reading a lot of their posts I’m reminded of this:

“A modest little person, with much to be modest about.”
— Winston Churchill


90 posted on 04/05/2007 1:03:13 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: areafiftyone

I’m with you. They have short memories regarding the Clintonista presidency. Some people are very shortsighted. But then we get what we deserve, and some people prefer a Hillary/Obama/Marxist to a man who is not perfect, but is a GREAT leader and DOER.

This is a crazy country. Some want more perfection from a president than they do from their MATE, PASTOR, or BOSS and on issues that are non-presidential. A president’s 1st and foremost function is to keep this country SAFE and SECURE from it’s ENEMIES.

We have plenty of those in this evil world at the moment. Well we agree so ......L0l


91 posted on 04/05/2007 1:08:12 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: Peach

Its a shame. We have morphed into what we made fun of in 2004. Funny how it goes around.


92 posted on 04/05/2007 1:10:24 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Peach
Gosh, and yet SC has greatly reduced the number of providers it permits to operate in this state and has greatly reduced the number of abortions in this state.

However, if a woman wants an abortion before 12 weeks, she can get one.

Sure, some feds have overturned some state laws regarding abortion, but not all laws by any means

The most restrictive ones have been. The ones that actually OUTLAW abortions instead of making them harder to get.

And since this dicussion is largely about Roe, it boils down getting Roe overturned. Then abortion will truly be a state issue. Again.

93 posted on 04/05/2007 1:10:43 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Gracey

Its a shame. We made fun of the democrats in 2004 - the Ultra left wanted Dean and the middle of the road wanted Kerry. There was a deep division. We had a huge laugh at their expense. Now its our turn. Shame on us for becoming what we thought we never would.


94 posted on 04/05/2007 1:12:25 PM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone
Its a shame. We made fun of the democrats in 2004 - the Ultra left wanted Dean and the middle of the road wanted Kerry.

Now some in the GOP want Rudy - a man on the left fringe of the party - whereas a lot of folks are coalescing around Fred, a centrist. No comparision whatsoever.

95 posted on 04/05/2007 1:15:58 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: Jake The Goose
"a scumbag ??? - - - - Nice intellect there cowboy."

Sorry, should have said 'dengenerate hypocrite'.

96 posted on 04/05/2007 1:18:01 PM PDT by peekingfromabox
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To: dirtboy

The question is not your personal preference in the primary. My issue is with people who will sit out the General Election if their PERFECT candidate is not the nominee. Yeah, they’d rather have the BEAST/Marxist Hillary or Obama.

She will set the country back so FAR in time that conservatives will probably not be able to recover.


97 posted on 04/05/2007 1:21:30 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: TommyDale
......Some Giuliani supporters said the abortion issue doesn't bother them. "I'm really for the whole package. I feel like I'm comfortable being for him," said Rosemary Byerly, a staunch abortion opponent from Inman....."

Yup, me too. Go Rudy!

98 posted on 04/05/2007 1:23:32 PM PDT by KATIE-O ( Rudy Giuliani '08 - Restoring Optimism For The Republican Party.)
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To: Gracey
The question is not your personal preference in the primary. My issue is with people who will sit out the General Election if their PERFECT candidate is not the nominee.

Here we go again.

Someone opposed to Rudy wants a PERFECT candidate. Or is an unappeasable. Or a 100 percenter.

Sorry, but the groundswell of support behind Thompson completely obliterates that talking point. Fred has his flaws. But he is at the center of the GOP, not at the far left fringe.

Rudy would not be able to hold the GOP together. Heck, he's apparently given up even trying to court the social conservative vote and is back to a rabid pro-abort stance. If you are so concerned about keeping Hillary out of the White House, back someone from the center of the party.

99 posted on 04/05/2007 1:24:22 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: peekingfromabox

That’s a little better - or at least less nasty.


100 posted on 04/05/2007 1:24:49 PM PDT by Jake The Goose
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