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Rudy Giuliani, NO Fiscal Conservative
Townhall ^ | 4/4/07 | George Marlin

Posted on 04/05/2007 9:31:14 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky

Rudy Giuliani, NO Fiscal Conservative

By George Marlin

Wednesday, April 4, 2007

When Steve Forbes was seeking the Republican presidential nomination in 1996, then Mayor Rudy Giuliani ridiculed his proposal to scrap the federal income tax code and replace it with a simple flat-tax. Giuliani called Forbes plan a "mistake" and said if implemented "would really be a disaster."

Despite these smears, Steve Forbes now believes Rudy embraces the flat-tax concept and endorsed him for president claiming he "will inspire the next generation of the Reagan Revolution."

Apparently Forbes forgot that when running for mayor, Rudy Giuliani showcased his liberal credentials and boasted he would "rekindle the Rockefeller, Javits Lefkowitz tradition" of the Republican Party and "produce the kind of change New York City saw with Fiorella LaGuardia and with John Lindsay."

Here's a sampling of the change the Rockefeller-Lindsay brand of Republican liberalism gave New York: During Governor Rockefeller's 14-year tenure, he brought New York State to the verge of bankruptcy. When Rocky entered office, his first budget was $2 billion, when he left office his last budget was $8.7 billion. Thanks to 18 tax increases he signed into law, New Yorkers were the most heavily taxed citizens in the nation and their state had the highest public debt in the nation. Viewing the mess he inherited from Rockefeller, Democratic Governor Hugh Carey said: "I've seen delicatessens in bankruptcy in better shape than the State of New York."

The Upper East Side Republican-liberal social engineer mayor, John Lindsay, financed New York City's big government agenda with creative fiscal gimmicks including phantom revenues, capitalization of expenses, short-term debt rollovers, false revenue estimates and excessive long-term borrowing. And Lindsay increased nuisance taxes, water rates, sewer taxes, commercial rent tax and instituted the city personal income, general corporation and unincorporated business taxes.

Mayor Lindsay's reckless fiscal policies were directly responsible for the City's 1975 default on debt.

Following in their footsteps, Mayor Giuliani declared that pledging no new tax increases is "political pandering." He also said "when I ran for mayor both times, I was asked very, very often to do the following: Pledge that you will never raise taxes. I refused to do that. Pledge that you will lower taxes. I refused to do that."

When Giuliani endorsed liberal icon Mario Cuomo for governor in 1994, he called the Republican-Conservative George Pataki's 25 percent state income tax cut (cloned from the Forbes-inspired New Jersey income tax cut) "irresponsible" and a "shell game that would hurt everyone in the state."

Forbes points to Rudy's fiscal management of New York City as proof of his conservatism. "Giuliani," he claims, "turned an inherited deficit [$2.3 billion] into a multimillion dollar surplus." It's true that during Giuliani's first term when times were tough, he contained costs and made some tax cuts. But what Forbes failed to point out is that in Rudy's second term, when the economy was booming, he abandoned fiscal restraint and became a big-spending liberal. City budget expenditures jumped 25 percent – twice the inflation rate – and Giuliani left his successor a projected operating deficit of $4.5 billion and New York's citizens with the highest tax burden in any major municipality in America.

Rudy Giuliani, a legatee of Nelson Rockefeller and John Lindsay, fails on every fiscal and cultural issue that are dear to conservatives. And one can only hope that Steve Forbes and his friends will learn before it's too late that life-long liberal Rudy Giuliani is employing conservative rhetoric merely to patronize them.

George J. Marlin is an author, former Conservative Party nominee for mayor of the City of New York, former two term Executive Director and CEO of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.


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KEYWORDS: giuliani; rinorudygiuliani; rudy; rudy08; rudy2008; stoprudy2008
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The real single-issue voters are the ones that want to vote for this liberal simply to conduct the war on terror. He's gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-illegal immigrant big government Republican.
1 posted on 04/05/2007 9:31:16 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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He's gun-grabbing, pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-illegal immigrant big government Republican

Rudy is NO conservative

2 posted on 04/05/2007 9:33:22 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Our enemies are little worms, I saw them in Washington ... Armadinnerjacket)
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The real single-issue voters are the ones that want to vote for this liberal simply to conduct the war on terror.

And even at that, he's not the guy. He failed to move New York's ECC away from WTC 7 despite clearly-stated concerns by emergency professionals. He also pushed a corrupt crony for the most important anti-terror job in the country. Where he has had direct interaction with proactive WOT matters, he has failed miserably.

3 posted on 04/05/2007 9:37:11 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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When Giuliani endorsed liberal icon Mario Cuomo for governor in 1994, he called the Republican-Conservative George Pataki's 25 percent state income tax cut (cloned from the Forbes-inspired New Jersey income tax cut) "irresponsible" and a "shell game that would hurt everyone in the state."

And Rudy has the nerve to constantly invoke Ronald Reagan in his campaign?

4 posted on 04/05/2007 9:38:44 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Ol' Sparky

Ruby Julie Annie is no social conservative either. That puts him 0 for 2. Liberals crossdressing as a Conservatives is an attempt to bamboozle.


5 posted on 04/05/2007 9:39:33 AM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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To: Ol' Sparky

Let’s add in taxpayer funding for abortion as a failing of both fiscal and social conservatism. Guiliani reiterated such support only yesterday.


6 posted on 04/05/2007 9:41:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Rudy is Hillary in a man’s suit.


7 posted on 04/05/2007 9:41:41 AM PDT by RJL
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The real single-issue voters are the ones that want to vote for this liberal simply to conduct the war on terror

Rudy actively avoided the draft and has no military experience. Rudy has never held a position that dealt with foreign policy, the military, or war fighting. Rudy actively supported a sanctuary policy that would have given sanctuary to most of the foreign terrorists in this Country including three of the 911 terrorists.

What would make someone think Rudy has any type of background for conducting the WOT?

8 posted on 04/05/2007 9:42:56 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: Ol' Sparky

Rush played some of Rudy’s interview with Hannity yesterday. He said Rudy will remain in first place as long as he keeps talking like he was in that interview and describing the democrats for what they are.


9 posted on 04/05/2007 9:43:36 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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Being elected Mayor of Americas "Sodom"(NYC) should be a Red Flag and disqualification....
instead of a qualification for president..
10 posted on 04/05/2007 9:44:14 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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Not to mention he used an act of sudden-jihad-syndrome at the Empire State Building as a prop for a gun control presser with Carolyn McCarthy.


11 posted on 04/05/2007 9:46:08 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (War, children, it's just a shot away.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Most liberal Republican to ever run for President.


12 posted on 04/05/2007 9:47:47 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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Not to mention he used an act of sudden-jihad-syndrome at the Empire State Building as a prop for a gun control presser with Carolyn McCarthy.

Exactly. Yet we're supposed to believe he would never be tempted to sign a gun ban if offered by a Dem Congress. Especially one "justified" by a terror attack involving guns.

Meanwhile, Rudy's supporters make a big deal from of Rudy kicking Arafat out of a concert. Yet he refused to call the Empire State Building shooting an act of terror by a Palestinian. So much for his forcefullness against Islamic terrorists.

13 posted on 04/05/2007 9:50:05 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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To: clamper1797

He like McCain has an “R” behind his name, that’s about it.


14 posted on 04/05/2007 9:51:14 AM PDT by Red6 (Come and get it.)
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To: RJL

“Rudy is Hillary in a man’s suit.”

While still wearing panties...


15 posted on 04/05/2007 9:53:09 AM PDT by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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He like McCain has an “R” behind his name, that’s about it.

McCain, at least, has a a decent ACU rating, even if he has turned into a dangerous, monomaniacal lunatic.

16 posted on 04/05/2007 9:54:47 AM PDT by kevkrom (Tagline under construction -- please use alternate witticsims)
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When Giuliani endorsed liberal icon Mario Cuomo

I still remember back when he did this and won't ever forget it.

17 posted on 04/05/2007 10:03:38 AM PDT by yuta250
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To: dc-zoo

As much as I like Rush, it has to be said. How is that “Don’t worry folks, the Democrats will never take the House or the Senate in 2006”, working for ya?


18 posted on 04/05/2007 10:03:58 AM PDT by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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To: Ol' Sparky
My question for Rudy-supporters is: What's in it for you? Why are you supporting a guy who, by all accounts, is in agreement with 10% or so of what the party platform says. Do you support Rudy because you think he's the way that moderates and liberals are going to "take back" the GOP from the gun-nuts and Bible-thumpers? Is that why you back Rudy? Doesn't it bother you in the least that the man has no respect for life, liberty, OR property - as his positions on issues ranging from abortion to the Constitution to property forfeiture indicate?

Does the Republican party REALLY need to nominate someone who isn't really a Republican to win? If so, then maybe the Republican Party should just fold it up, call the experiment in responsible self-government a failure, and go home and wait for the end.

19 posted on 04/05/2007 10:13:28 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (A member of the Frederalist Party)
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The real single-issue voters are the ones that want to vote for this liberal simply to conduct the war on terror

That's what they say, but I suspect that most of them are liberals themselves.

20 posted on 04/05/2007 10:14:22 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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