[Dr. Frank fan]

So you think the Iranian government put them up in a nice room and treated them kindly, and that they just asked the hostages nicely to do these videos and the hostages said yes? Is that what you REALLY think?

I don't know, and neither do you. As I've said, though, the "confessions" came in a short amount of time and with no visible evidence of harm. Usually it is considered manly/courageous to "hold out" against torture (which we don't even know took place here), and unmanly/uncourageous not to. A synonym for that would be "wimpy".

It's not an argument - it is a statement of fact.

Ok, it's a statement of fact. One which does nothing whatsoever to refute the point Derb was making.

[MEGoody]

I don't know

If you haven't a clue, then you obviously don't know much about the Iranian government or radical Islamics.

One which does nothing whatsoever to refute the point Derb was making.

Oh, you are refering to his pre-judgment of people he knows nothing about, operating under orders he knows nothing about, who have gone through things he knows nothing about?

Funny how you have a problem with my arguments which are based on the information currently available, but you accept his pre-judgment which doesn't fit the information available.