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THE END OF RUDY'S BLISS (the Rudy/Judi Barbara Walters disaster)
NY POST ^ | April 3, 2007 | JOHN PODHERETZ

Posted on 04/03/2007 4:02:00 AM PDT by Liz

The Giuliani '08 juggernaut just ran head-on into Podhoretz's First and Last Law of Politics, namely: No politician seeking the nation's highest office can do as much damage to another as he can do to himself. --SNIP-- The question before us today is whether Rudy Giuliani committed a blunder of comparable proportions by consenting to a Barbara Walters request for a joint interview with him and his wife Judi - during the course of which he said, embarrassingly, that he would welcome her presence at Cabinet meetings and listen to her closely on issues relating to health care.

Until that moment, he had handled his presidential bid as perfectly as could be imagined......his four months of bliss came to an end when ABC News released the first snippets of the Walters interview last Thursday..... Walters moment only revealed that Rudy ......thought he could say something cute about his wife that really wasn't cute at all - seemed perhaps more about currying favor with her than about finding the appropriate balance between portraying a loving marriage and depicting a future presidency. Of course, what Rudy was doing with Barbara Walters was an effort....- to neutralize the damaging effect of his marital history by being open and clear and honest. He did that well.....then he muffed it.

News of the Walters interview began a 96-hour ordeal for Giuliani that included the leak of his grand-jury testimony in the case of his former police commissioner's ties to a crooked contractor - potentially his most serious liability - and the revelations that Judi Giuliani has actually been married more than twice and had worked for a medical-equipment firm that used (and thus killed) dogs.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giuliani; judith; lizhanover; rudy; twofer; twoforone
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To: ken5050
Kerik fooled a lot of people, for many years...

Correction----Kerik fooled SOME people. Kerik decidedly did not escape the notice of the more perceptive types. Kerik has corruption written all over him ...... in bold black letters.

Now you ask what position should Rudy hold in a Thompson or Hunter admin?

Well, with all this scary talk about islamofacism, I think Rudy's trouble-shooting skills would come in handy......stationed at the WH gate as a uniformed guard, protecting our president (grin).

61 posted on 04/03/2007 6:14:01 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: writeblock

Rudy’s baggage and liberal positions on the issues will drag him down. he cannot win. fred thompson can.


62 posted on 04/03/2007 6:14:41 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: writeblock

Right now Rudy is only known for 9/11, most people do not know his stand on guns, abortion, immigration and gays. Please, the media is glossing over these facts. Wait until we get into the nitty gritty. I cannot believe so many will forgo their ideaology and values for a celebrity candidate. I have a feeling it will end real bad.


63 posted on 04/03/2007 6:14:56 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: writeblock
BTTT...

So far, Thompson is running on fumes, as are those who see him as their savior. They will hit the ground hard if he doesn't run. And if he does run, they will defend him against charges that he's a shallow playboy with a very young wife. All the while attacking Rudy as being "immoral."

64 posted on 04/03/2007 6:16:11 AM PDT by veronica
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To: Liz
Now you ask what position should Rudy hold in a Thompson or Hunter admin?

Bwwwaaaaaa. Hunter who??

65 posted on 04/03/2007 6:17:25 AM PDT by veronica
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To: cb
This is really nothing new......from democrats.

Someone on this forum told me that Nancy Reagan sat in on cabinet meetings. Is that true? Would you describe her as an "unofficial advisor" to President Reagan? I honestly don't know, but I would guess that might be the case.

66 posted on 04/03/2007 6:19:18 AM PDT by MonTinaGirl
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To: Corin Stormhands

It’s hilarious how they are lining up behind someone who has not declared he is running, and about whom I suggest, they actually know very little. Like lemmings they line up behind candidates who aren’t running or cannot possibly get the nod.


67 posted on 04/03/2007 6:19:47 AM PDT by veronica
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To: apocalypto

“Rudy will lose for sure against Hillary.”

You don’t know what you’re talking about. He consistently beats Hillary in the polls. He’s ahead of her in NJ, OH, CT, RI, PA, MN, IO, OR and FL. He is very very popular in CA as well. Nothing written about his wife will change any of this. Just a couple of these states would win us the election. Just half of them would translate into a landslide and assure a Republican Congress.


68 posted on 04/03/2007 6:20:26 AM PDT by writeblock
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To: Liz

I very much doubt that anyone who was planning to support Rudy suddenly changed their mind because of his comment about allowing his wife to attend cabinet meetings. Frankly, this doesn’t concern me all that much. I’m much more concerned about Rudy’s social liberalism.


69 posted on 04/03/2007 6:21:08 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: veronica
he's a shallow playboy with a very young wife. All the while attacking Rudy as being "immoral."

i have seen you try to draw some moral equivalence between these two situations before and i would like to ask you, honestly, if you believe that a single man dating and marrying a woman 25 years his junior is the same as a married man conducting a very public adulterous affair and subsequently marrying the woman? if you are ok with rudy's adultery, that's fine. but that is the distinction between the two.

70 posted on 04/03/2007 6:21:13 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: MonTinaGirl

There is probably no modern First Lady who was as trusted an advisor as Nancy Reagan. She pulled a lot of strings behind the scenes.


71 posted on 04/03/2007 6:21:40 AM PDT by veronica
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To: writeblock
Rudy will still win more blue and purple states than any other Republican candidate and he will still help more Republicans get into Congress

Republicans like himself. Oh joy, yet more RINOs in Congress. Just what we need to pull this country even farther to the left.

72 posted on 04/03/2007 6:22:29 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: veronica

May 3rd. That is the day Duncan Hunter willl be kicking some serious butt. There is no way Rudy can go head to head with him in a debate without backtracking. Bring it on, immigration, the WOT, the 2nd amendment, bring it all on. It’s time to lay the cards on the table. We will see. Remember May 3rd, MSNBC.


73 posted on 04/03/2007 6:23:07 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: veronica

What I find most amazing is the transition...

“Fred Thompson ~might~ run.”

“Hunter who?”


74 posted on 04/03/2007 6:23:31 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com * http://wardsmythe.com * http://www.rudyblogs.com)
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To: writeblock

“He’s a lousy campaigner who had a single lackluster term in the Senate. If he espoused conservative causes, I’d like to hear about it.”

Here are Sturm Ruger’s links to FDT info. That is, IF you really want to hear about it. I find it very hard to believe that anyone with high conservative standards prefers Giuliani to Thompson, and doesn’t even know Thompson’s record.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1810458/posts?page=27#27

As for FDT being a lousy campaigner, he won his races by huge margins. Look it up.


75 posted on 04/03/2007 6:23:39 AM PDT by Graymatter (FREDeralist)
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To: redgolum
Lookit, nobody would be interested in the candidate's wife....except that Rudy himself brought her wife into the campaign spotlight.

Rudy goofed by saying his wife would sit in on Cabinet meetings. That got lots and lots of attention----attention he doesn't like.

Too bad.

And what you call "attacks" are simply US citizens having their say, as is their right.

That's what elections are all about---the candidate doing his best to convince voters-----and the people deciding who their president will be.

76 posted on 04/03/2007 6:23:40 AM PDT by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: panthermom

“Right now Rudy is only known for 9/11, most people do not know his stand on guns, abortion, immigration and gays.”

Wrong. People know—and don’t care. Times change. The social issues are on the back burner as long as this country faces threats from Islamofascism. People are looking for a leader, not a saint.


77 posted on 04/03/2007 6:23:42 AM PDT by writeblock
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To: Jhensy
Tempest in a teapot. Next.

Exactly. Much ado about nothing. Any man who doesn't listen to his wife or at least use her as a sound board for his reasoning hasn't chosen his wife well.

78 posted on 04/03/2007 6:23:54 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: Liz

Which is true, Rudy brought it on himself by trying to push his wife into a more public role.


79 posted on 04/03/2007 6:24:45 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: airborne

Um, Terayza was on the other side, remember?


80 posted on 04/03/2007 6:25:19 AM PDT by IrishRainy (I used to NEVER finish anything, but now I)
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