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Thompson Is for Real (Run, Fred, RUN!)
The Washington Post ^ | 04/02/07 | Robert D. Novak

Posted on 04/01/2007 9:13:44 PM PDT by SE Mom

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To: Hostage

Back in 1994, when there was nothing to be gained or lost in a nationsl race, several stories from significant news outlets described Thompson as a pro-choice Republican candidate, there are no records of Thompson challenging those articles at that time.

Why didn't he?


121 posted on 04/01/2007 11:08:00 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Luis Gonzalez wrote: "Asides from the "evil" AP, the National Review was also lying in 1994 about his being pro-choice?"

I never called the AP "evil." I only asked for a link to the AP for the story you attributed to it, not second-hand links that are spread all over the internet by "Evangelicals for Mitt."

And no, I don't think NR "lied." What happened was that Ramesh got his facts mixed up, and he won't admit it.


122 posted on 04/01/2007 11:08:10 PM PDT by Josh Painter (Draft Fred Thompson: the grassroots "surge that will transform the Republican race." - The Hill)
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To: jellybean

There are many conservatives who want no immigration, legal or otherwise.


123 posted on 04/01/2007 11:08:45 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: My2Cents
Rudy will win both the nomination and the presidency. Have no fear.

Have no fear if he wins the nomination he'll have my support...

124 posted on 04/01/2007 11:10:37 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: Luis Gonzalez

You're losing here and you could show everyone you have capacity to realize that fact.

FDT never said he was pro-choice. He said he was against (federal) government involvement in abortion.

Before Roe vs. Wade the federal government was not involved in abortion issues. It was a States rights issue. The abortionists very much want the federal government to be involved by enforcing abortion rights.

So your whole logic is twisted.

FDT was saying he's in favor of returning to the policy of non-involvement of the federal government in abortion, meaning he is favor of overturning Roe vs. Wade.

It is Roe vs. Wade that forces the federal government to sanction abortion, to the absurd point that it is funded as a public health measure.

I also believe the federal government should have no say in abortion issues and I am pro-life.


125 posted on 04/01/2007 11:11:48 PM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"I'm sure that he will explain that, and his support for McCain-Feingold to YOUR satisfaction."

I couldn't care what you say, think, or do. Anyone who would vote for "anyone" that can win, has no integrity or grounds to question anyone else's.

:O)

P



Here, this is just for you!


126 posted on 04/01/2007 11:12:34 PM PDT by papasmurf (Join Team 36120 Free Republic Folders. Folding@Home Enter Name:FRpapasmurf)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Thompson voted pro-life; enough said.


127 posted on 04/01/2007 11:13:03 PM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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To: Hostage

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n12_v46/ai_15544266/pg_2

I guess National Review lied as well back in 1994.


128 posted on 04/01/2007 11:13:54 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: SE Mom
I am only trying to save this forum from its inevitable embarrassment. What will all of you Thompson folks do when you find out he aint running? Pick one of the others? Nope. You will probably be so angry that you wont vote at all, or hold on to some hope that McCain might pick Thompson for VP, and keep up this madness.

Fred Thompson is not interested in a pay cut, having his life turned upside down, in the HOPE of becoming President.

He is playing you all for fools, and you are buying it. There is no committed money left for Thompson OR McCain, it is a complete ruse. McCain thinks Conservatives are dumb, and all the Thompson enthusiasm is proving it.

I don't mean to insult anyone, but you folks are going to look really bad, as soon as Thompson and McCain fill you in.

129 posted on 04/01/2007 11:17:08 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: dangus
He simply did not get to nominate judges in NYC. Any article which implies that he did is either deceitful, or mindlessly echoing the attack dogs. A committee of uber-liberals would submit three names of NYC judges, almost all of whom are going to be left-wing extremists, and Rudy has to pick from among those.

To be fair this is true...

130 posted on 04/01/2007 11:17:48 PM PDT by Doofer
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To: Fabozz

Oh, come on! I'm not pleased that Fred is a divorcee, but Newt's and Rudy's multiple marriages have been far more scandalous.


131 posted on 04/01/2007 11:18:10 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Hostage

"I believe that government should not interfere with individual convictions and actions in this area." -- Fred Thompson

That means that an individual should have the choice to abort or not abort according to her own convictions, and free from interference from any level of government.

Pro-choice because it disallows for the government making abortion illegal.


132 posted on 04/01/2007 11:18:20 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I don't think he has an exactly stellar record on tort reform and the like either.


133 posted on 04/01/2007 11:20:12 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: Pukin Dog

134 posted on 04/01/2007 11:21:06 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Dolphy

I've read buzz about that as well.


135 posted on 04/01/2007 11:23:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
There are many conservatives who want no immigration, legal or otherwise.

Really? Can you name them? In all the immigration discussions I've never heard anyone say they were against legal immigration.

136 posted on 04/01/2007 11:23:11 PM PDT by jellybean (FRED THOMPSON FOR PRESIDENT! Proud to be an Ann-droid and a Steyn-aholic)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

The following post on FR provides a different take on Fred's views on abortion, implying he has been pro-life since 1994. In fact the National Right to Life group endorsed him when he first ran for the Senate. Surely as the lastest polls show, Fred is cutting into Mitt's support, and perhaps Giuliani's. It is only natural that Mitt's supporters would respond. I do not doubt Mitt's conversion to the pro-life cause. After all, Geo. H. W. Bush was pro-choice, changed his position and never waivered from it while he was Vice-President and President. Such may be the case with Fred & Mitt as well.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1805399/posts


137 posted on 04/01/2007 11:25:54 PM PDT by gpapa
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Not true. There are a 'few' conservatives that want no immigration period. But 'most' conservatives would now favor a moratorium on all immigration until it is demonstrated that the nation can secure its borders and manage a flow of legal immigrants. Then they will favor legal immigration.

Conservatives do not hate immigrants, they hate a government that is mismanaged and wasteful on any issue including immigration.

So you cannot say conservatives do not want legal immigration, they in fact do want immigration when it is managed properly to fill well-defined targeted needs of the country.

And past generations of conservatives have supported legal immigration in a focused manner. For example, the Lithuanian communities of Detroit and Chigago were started in the early 1900s by an influx of immigrants brought in by the automotive manufacturing industry. Workers were needed and those people had the skills. Their families followed them. Once enough workers were placed, the immigration was cut.

What we have now is an uncontrolled mess.

Conservatives are not against the immigrants, they are against the 'mess'.


138 posted on 04/01/2007 11:26:54 PM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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To: jellybean

Well, I guess you've missed all the posts in this forum pertaining to H1B visas and such, all the comments about the nation being overcrowded.

Frankly, you're either being disingenuous or you simply haven't read as much in this forum as I have.

Or maybe, and to give you the benefit of the doubt, while you've not seen anything in all the immigration discussions you've seen, you haven't apparently seen all the threads on immigration in this forum, and you missed the comments.

They've been made, they've been made plenty of times, and whether or not you believe me is immaterial.


139 posted on 04/01/2007 11:29:39 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Some people see the world as they would want it to be, effective people see the world as it is.)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

They twisted it. Alot of journals did and still do.

Part of your experience on FR is learning how the media attempts to twist facts and events to generate perception that is separate from reality.

Let go of this line you're holding. It's not gaining you anything.


140 posted on 04/01/2007 11:29:44 PM PDT by Hostage (I'm a Fredhead and I vote!)
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