[rellimpank]

--great ideas , all requiring the backbone that the west doesn't have anymore--

[GeorgefromGeorgia]

I agree, even Bush and Blair, two of the West's strongest leaders are now a weak points in their administrations. However, Iran may have gone too far.
Clearly, strong action is required. That refinery is a weak point. How about sabotaging the refinery at a key point like its computer center, where it would be disabled for a while, but not destroyed. They might get the message. If that doesn't work, embargo their oil.