Posted on 03/30/2007 5:50:21 PM PDT by wagglebee
WHY am I insane?
- Am I insane because I have serious doubts about how a healthy woman who was asleep in bed somehow wound up lying in the hallway with an injured back after her husband came home late?
- Am I insane because I remember that Michael Schiavo wanted his wife to live prior to Terri's settlement?
- Am I insane because I find it suspicious that immediately after TERRI was awarded a million dollar settlement?
- Am I insane because I believe that a "living will" that is not in writing should be substantiated by people other than those who benefit from the person's death?
- Am I insane to disbelieve a man who abandons his wife to cohabitate with another woman in impregnate her?
- Am I insane to point out that Terri's rights under the Florida Constitution were totally ignored?
- Am I insane to believe that FOOD AND WATER are not "extraordinary" life support?
On second thought, I could care less what you think of my mental state. Why don't you go back to the new non-conservative forum that many of you have joined to bemoan how conservatives have "ruined" the Republican Party.
It was Michael Schiavo who began the court proceedings in Terri's case. Family disputes have been resolved in court since the inception of our nation. It is nothing new and has nothing whatsoever to do with the rise of big government.
Furthermore, Liberals have been using the courts to push through their agenda for several generations at least beginning with the welfare state and moving along to issues such as abortion, homosexual marriage and euthanasia. The very Liberal Euthanasia lobby was prominent in Terri's case and just as in Roe vs. Wade and so many other issues, they succeeded in establishing a horrible precedent.
While Terri's case garnered much publicity, very few Americans were all that concerned about it and it has nothing to do with Giuliani's popularity mostly among Republicans. It is concern for the WOT among Republicans, which has inspired Giuliani's support, which I predict will wane when more people learn his stand on the issues, and the popularity of the candidate I am supporting, Mitt Romney, will grow.
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If you were an invalid and your spouse decided to abandon you, move in with another person and have children with them and began using YOUR money (Michael Schiavo was never awarded a penny) for purposes other than the judge allocated it, would you be of the opinion that your "spouse" was acting in your best interests?
I do believe however, in the future, if at all possible, we must learn to fight with a much, much better sense of PR.
IMHO she was killed by the state.
At the very least it was controversial, so nothing should have been done.
The left has been pushing for euthanasia for decades. They decided that they would use Terri to further that agenda. To that end, the media deliberately lied to the public about Terri's condition, Florida law and Michael's estrangement from her.
We agree and I said the same in post #62. : )
You are wrong, Michael. Terri was not brain dead, not even close. Her ability to follow an object passing in front of her is proof she was not brain dead. And before you cite a foolish claim of her brain weight at autopsy, the dehydration over so many days reduces the fluid volume in the brain. I'm astonished that you would make such an inane comment, frankly.
Only Terri's therapy and care award was used to kill Terri. We should distinguish here because Michael himself was awarded $600,000 for "loss of consortium." Not that he lost any consortium, mind. (Consortium is something wives can do for husbands, but you can also find it on the street, which is how Michael started making babies out of wedlock with Jodi Centonze.) The lawyers and taxman took a big piece of that award, but Michael received over $300,000 as his rake-off from Terri's terrible disability, and celebrated by buying a new gold Acura the very day he got the check! Yee-haw! Her injuries got me a sports car!! Michael is a sweet, sentimental fool like that.
Not one penny of HIS money was ever spent for the legal case to kill Terri. No, sir! Michael was very fussy to use only Terri's therapy money to kill her. (That's "fraud on the court," incidentally.)
By the way, Michael was just as sentimental the day he finally killed her. Three hours -- hours! -- after Terri was safely dead, he and death lawyer Debbie Bushnell raced to court to file a claim for her estate.
True, but remember, this wasn't a family dispute at first. Michael went to court to ask permission to kill Terri without telling the Schindlers. Unbelievable! He did not tell the Schindlers that he had petitioned a court to kill their daughter. (Eventually, his attorney, Deborah Bushnell wrote the Schindlers to say so, probably for fear of a wrongful death lawsuit or something of the sort.)
For all those who preach to us that this was a private family decision that the government should stay out of -- where were you in 1998 when Michael himself asked the government to intervene? Where were you the next seven years? During all of those years, it was the government that kept Terri's FAMILY from having any say whatsoever in her private medical decisions.
As I said above my friend, it was Michael Schaivo who first approached the court. No matter the particulars, it became a family dispute over whether Terri would want to live or die and had nothing to do with conservatives invoking BIG BROTHER as has been alleged.
Unfortunately, it was also another instance of Liberals pushing their agenda, this time FOR EUTHANASIA, through the courts, which I agree was the motivation from the day Michael first filed his case.
Sure. I just wanted to add that revealing detail that Michael neglected to tell the family. Actually, that's not quite strong enough. It wasn't an oversight or "neglect." He REFUSED to tell the Schindlers. He acted out of hatred for her and hatred for them. He said so, too, in sworn testimony. Felos had to step in and rescue him at the end of his harangue.
The visitors get so preachy about those things -- that it's all a private family matter, yadda yadda. We didn't hear a peep of protest out of them until the last few days of a drama that went on for 15 YEARS. Not a peep about the government butting into intimate private business back when the state intervention began in 1998. Not a peep that the family should make the decision when the government was preventing it all of those years.
I agree (of course) with your point that the euthanists seized on Terri's case to advance their agenda. As has been said her more than once, they set out to kill her precisely because she was NOT eligible to be killed under the law.
And Michael's alliance with them was quite likely to obstruct justice.
Excellent, excellent point.
Who said I take anyone's word. You think King Solomon would be satisfied with someone's claims that she said "I wannnnnt"? Where's the video? I want evidence, dammit. If it exists, it is damning and should make its way onto YouTube et al.
There is an audio tape out there.
But let's do it your way, in the absense of verifiable proof that Terri wanted her husband to kill her off, the presumption must be that she didn't
Well, certainly a lot of "Christians" who don't seem to actually believe in eternal life nor the soul, and think it is somehow an act of mercy to keep one chained for decades to a useless physical form. Like atheists, they seem to believe our brief physical incarnations on Earth are the only lives we have.
No, we simply don't believe that an estranged, adulterous "husband" should have been permitted to play God and kill someone off because she was a inconvenience to him.
The Terri Schiavo story is certainly one that people could take many sides. However the above is beyond the pale and certainly less than true. Whatever high, moral and for that matter Godly ground you may have had prior to that statement was eroded away when you wrote that. There is none left.
For that, all concerned are or should be sorry.
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