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The Anti-Enlightenment
www.evansayet.com ^ | Tuesday, March 27, 2007 | Evan Sayet

Posted on 03/30/2007 5:19:12 PM PDT by antonia

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1 posted on 03/30/2007 5:19:12 PM PDT by antonia
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To: thatcher
"The Enlightenment saw a quest for dispassionate truths. This quest is antithetical to the agenda of the Modern Liberal who sees truth itself as the enemy. This is because the central tenet of Modern Liberalism is that it is the quest for truth that is the root of all evil."
 

Neatly put.

2 posted on 03/30/2007 5:20:51 PM PDT by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: antonia

good post


3 posted on 03/30/2007 5:27:36 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

I don't know about US and Israel being the most advanced.
I am sorry, but look at our school situation. A lot of
our scientific and technological advancement comes from
brains coming over from all over the world (Russia,
India, China, etc.) It is undeniably a good thing that
these people choose to come here (and certainly says a lot
of good things for the US) but it kind of undermines this
particular argument.


4 posted on 03/30/2007 5:33:03 PM PDT by WingBolt
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To: antonia

Hmmmm. Interesting point.

Thinkfood.


5 posted on 03/30/2007 5:33:38 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: LiteKeeper

thanks


6 posted on 03/30/2007 5:34:32 PM PDT by antonia (Build the Wall Now! "Drill right now, Drill today, Drill all night, Drill all the way!")
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To: WingBolt

Yours is a point on a different topic, I think.

Sure, there's good brain power coming from Russia, China, India and such. But precious little innovation. Curious, to be sure.

It remains, and I don't think it is mere tribal arrogance to say so, that the U.S. Is the greatest source of technical innovation in the history of the world.

But still we're off topic somewhat.

The larger point above is that liberalism requires the abolition of truth. I think he's spot on.


7 posted on 03/30/2007 5:45:48 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: antonia

Hmmmm. Interesting point.

Thinkfood.


8 posted on 03/30/2007 5:47:19 PM PDT by Ramius ([sip])
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To: antonia
Science is a game we play with God to find out what his rules are...

-Traveler

9 posted on 03/30/2007 5:48:10 PM PDT by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To all,

I was talking about the sciece and education PRIOR to the leftist take-over of the schools and universities. Now that religion has been excized from our society (to the best of the leftists' abilities) science means nothing (i.e. bogus global warming beliefs, belief in Darwinism for no other reason than that it is anti-God, etc).

---Evan Sayet


10 posted on 03/30/2007 6:50:24 PM PDT by cob201
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To: antonia

I wonder why they don't want to seek the truth?


11 posted on 03/30/2007 7:11:18 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: cob201
Since religion is the effort to be right morally and spiritually while science is the effort to be right in the physical world, it is not surprising to find the left so passionately against both.

Leftism is a religion which attempts to deny being one, a morality which requires one to deny that morals exist, a professed belief that no absolute truths exist, which it insists must be believed absolutely. The very source of its passion is the sense of "rightness" which it gives its adherents; the more outrageously wrong its claims, the more passion they generate. After all, there is a premium on denying oneself for the Faith. A burnt offering of one's own brains is practically required to enter the Temple of liberalism.

12 posted on 03/30/2007 7:13:21 PM PDT by thulldud ("Para inglés, oprima el dos.")
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To: WingBolt
It is undeniable that the greatest scientific advances made in the United States were made when we were also much more religious than we are as a nation today.

I would argue that our decline in science is directly related to our decline in religious belief. Both can be attributed to the increased liberalism of our society, which is the author's point.

13 posted on 03/30/2007 7:21:23 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: cob201
Oh, how nice you are here! I see that I correctly interpreted what you were saying.

An additional thing that can be linked to the decline in faith and science is the decline in public morality.

All three share something in common: discipline in thought and behavior.

Liberalism undermines discipline in all areas of life and hence the disintegration of so much of our society and culture.

14 posted on 03/30/2007 7:30:17 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Prayers for Jemian's son,: Lord, please keep him safe and bring him home .)
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To: antonia
It's safe to say Bill Maher is one of the stupidest people on the face of this planet. So his comments make sense (to him).
15 posted on 03/30/2007 7:33:28 PM PDT by mtg
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To: Miss Marple; Ramius

But then there's http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6502725.stm.

And about the greatest advances were made
when we were more religious, I don't know if this
can be measured... Surely the recent advances
(the Internet, biotech) count as great?


16 posted on 03/30/2007 7:59:39 PM PDT by WingBolt
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To: Ramius
Sure, there's good brain power coming from Russia, China, India and such. But precious little innovation.

Exactly. Certainly the US is conducive to innovation, in its laws, economic, political system, etc. That's also WHY those people want to come here. But look at the graduate students in engineering and science - and you'll find a lot more foreign-born than Americans there.

17 posted on 03/30/2007 8:02:12 PM PDT by WingBolt
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To: WingBolt
and you'll find a lot more foreign-born than Americans there

I don't have statistics, so of course, I may be talking out of my a** regarding "more foreigners than Americans". Perhaps not *more*, but you get my point :)

18 posted on 03/30/2007 8:03:52 PM PDT by WingBolt
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To: antonia
"religion is the antithesis of science."

Kinda like how "Bill Maher is the antithesis of comedy."

19 posted on 03/30/2007 8:08:41 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (FReepmail me to join the all new Idaho Ping List.)
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To: Ramius
I wish I still had my copy of 1984. I'd swear that Orwell hit upon something very similar then.
20 posted on 03/30/2007 8:11:50 PM PDT by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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