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Passengers Sued Over Imams' Removal
AP ^ | March 30, 2007 | PATRICK CONDON

Posted on 03/30/2007 1:45:40 PM PDT by rawhide

Edited on 03/30/2007 2:08:22 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Six Muslim men removed from a plane last fall after being accused of suspicious behavior are suing not only the airline but the passengers who complained — a move some fear could discourage travelers from speaking up when they see something unusual.

The civil rights lawsuit, filed earlier this month, has so alarmed some lawyers that they are offering to defend the unnamed "John Doe" passengers free of charge. They say it is vital that the flying public be able to report suspicious behavior without fear of being dragged into court.

"When you drive up the road towards the airport, there's a big road sign that says, `Report suspicious behavior,'" said Gerry Nolting, a Minneapolis lawyer. "There's no disclaimer that adds, `But beware if you do that, you might get sued.'"

The six imams were taken off a Phoenix-bound US Airways flight on Nov. 20 while returning home from a conference of Islamic clerics in Minneapolis.

Other passengers had gotten nervous when the men were seen praying and chanting in Arabic as they waited to board. Some passengers also said that the men spoke of Saddam Hussein and cursed the United States; that they requested seat belt extenders with heavy buckles and stowed them under their seats; that they were moving about and conferring with each other during boarding; and that they sat separately in seats scattered through the cabin.

The plane was cleared for a security sweep, nothing was found, and the jet took off without the imams.

The Muslim clerics say they were humiliated, and are seeking unspecified damages from the airline, the Minneapolis airport and, potentially, the John Does.

Omar Mohammedi, the New York City attorney for the imams, said the intent is not to go after passengers who raise valid concerns about security. But he suggested some passengers may have acted in bad faith out of prejudice.

"As an attorney, I have seen a lot of abuse by the general public when it comes to members of the community creating stories that do not exist," Mohammedi said.

He denied the imams were talking about Saddam, and said that their seats were assigned and that they requested extenders because their seat belts didn't fit.

Some fear such lawsuits could weaken what has become the first line of defense against terrorism since Sept. 11 — an alert public. At airports and train and subway stations around the country, travelers are routinely warned to watch for unattended bags and suspicious activity and to notify authorities.

Ellen Howe, spokeswoman for the Transportation Security Administration, which oversees security at all U.S. airports, would not comment specifically on the imams' lawsuit. But she said the TSA counts on passengers to help the agency do its job.

"`See something, say something' is certainly a common mantra in this day and age," Howe said. "We would always remind passengers to be both vigilant and thoughtful."

In reaction to the imams' lawsuit, Congress has taken steps to legally protect passengers who report suspicious activity. Earlier this week, the House approved an amendment to a rail transportation security bill that would make passengers immune from such lawsuits, unless they say something they know is false.

Mohammedi said he has not yet identified any of the complaining passengers. An airport police report listed a passenger and two US Airways employees as complaining about the imams. All three had their names blacked out before the lawsuit was filed by invoking a Minnesota law that allows it, airport spokesman Pat Hogan said.

Nolting said he has been contacted by several potential John Does.

Passenger Pat Snelson, who lives in a Twin Cities suburb, said he and his wife were not among those who reported suspicious behavior. But he said his wife noticed the men praying, and he saw them moving around the cabin while others were boarding.

"These guys were up to no good," Snelson said. "We think the airport people did a real good job in taking care of it."

Bomb-sniffing dogs examined the men and their baggage. FBI agents and other federal law enforcement officers questioned the men for several hours before releasing them.

Billie Vincent, a former director of security for the Federal Aviation Administration, said he is troubled by the mere attempt to identify the passengers who raised concerns.

Airline passengers "are your eyes and your ears," said Vincent, who now owns an aviation security company. "If attorneys can get those names and sue them, you put a chilling effect on the whole system."


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: cair; flyingimams; imans; islam; johndoe; lyingimams; minnesota; muhammadsminions; muslim
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: rawhide

These guys and their lawyers need to be severely punished for barratry.


22 posted on 03/30/2007 1:57:05 PM PDT by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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To: rawhide

I assume the ACLU (Anti-Christian Lawyers Union) will join the case on the side of the Muslims.


23 posted on 03/30/2007 2:00:38 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Lexington Green
...And bring to Earth, through Communism, the greatest peace Man has ever known

Yeah, right.

The peace of the grave.

24 posted on 03/30/2007 2:00:42 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: rawhide

25 posted on 03/30/2007 2:00:47 PM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: Peach

It did pass...but it hasn't been signed by Pres. Bush yet. There were 121 Congresscritters that voted AGAINST it...and I don't know if it will help this case or not. For those passengers' sakes, I hope so.

I just heard Sean Hannity say that he is going to have some of those passengers on his Sunday TV show...(I hope they know how dangerous that can be)


26 posted on 03/30/2007 2:01:42 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: rawhide
...that they requested seat belt extenders with heavy buckles and stowed them under their seats...

Unless every one of these so-called 'imams' weighed over 250 pounds apiece, then they were doing this to provoke an incident.

These islamofacists are going to keep 'poking the bear' with rubbish like this frivolous lawsuit right up until the next attack... then things are going to get very ugly very fast and I'm not going to shed a single tear when they do.

27 posted on 03/30/2007 2:04:32 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: rawhide
If I was one of the passengers I would immediately file a counter suit and sue these muslim pigs for every last penny they have until these muslim pigs were homeless.
28 posted on 03/30/2007 2:05:09 PM PDT by Pox (Just say NO to RINO Rudy!)
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To: freepertoo
Yes, I read that the legislation protecting passengers passed. Sorry, I do not recall WHERE I read it.
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You heard wrong. It went to committee to start, that's right start, writing it.

Will it ever get out of committee? Your guess is as good as mine. A looooooong way from being law yet.
29 posted on 03/30/2007 2:05:20 PM PDT by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: rawhide
""These guys were up to no good," Snelson said. "We think the airport people did a real good job in taking care of it.""

That's the message the nutball's communicated.

30 posted on 03/30/2007 2:07:27 PM PDT by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani, gun grabber)
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To: rawhide

Here's what needs to be said to all of the imams and all of their terrorist sympathizer friends: I am John Doe.

"The John Doe Manifesto"

http://jewishworldreview.com/michelle/malkin032807.php3


31 posted on 03/30/2007 2:08:17 PM PDT by FarRightFanatic ("I'm Barack Hussein Obama...and I approved this taqiyya.")
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To: rawhide

Nice to see the Religion of Intimidation running true to form.


32 posted on 03/30/2007 2:08:18 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: rawhide

Federal Rules of Civil Procedure

III. PLEADINGS AND MOTIONS > Rule 11.

Rule 11. Signing of Pleadings, Motions, and Other Papers; Representations to Court; Sanctions

(a) Signature.
Every pleading, written motion, and other paper shall be signed by at least one attorney of record in the attorney's individual name, or, if the party is not represented by an attorney, shall be signed by the party. Each paper shall state the signer's address and telephone number, if any. Except when otherwise specifically provided by rule or statute, pleadings need not be verified or accompanied by affidavit. An unsigned paper shall be stricken unless omission of the signature is corrected promptly after being called to the attention of attorney or party.

(b) Representations to Court.
By presenting to the court (whether by signing, filing, submitting, or later advocating) a pleading, written motion, or other paper, an attorney or unrepresented party is certifying that to the best of the person's knowledge, information, and belief, formed after an inquiry reasonable under the circumstances,--

(1) it is not being presented for any improper purpose, such as to harass or to cause unnecessary delay or needless increase in the cost of litigation;

(2) the claims, defenses, and other legal contentions therein are warranted by existing law or by a nonfrivolous argument for the extension, modification, or reversal of existing law or the establishment of new law;

(3) the allegations and other factual contentions have evidentiary support or, if specifically so identified, are likely to have evidentiary support after a reasonable opportunity for further investigation or discovery; and

(4) the denials of factual contentions are warranted on the evidence or, if specifically so identified, are reasonably based on a lack of information or belief.

(c) Sanctions.
If, after notice and a reasonable opportunity to respond, the court determines that subdivision (b) has been violated, the court may, subject to the conditions stated below, impose an appropriate sanction upon the attorneys, law firms, or parties that have violated subdivision (b) or are responsible for the violation.

(1) How Initiated.

(A) By Motion. A motion for sanctions under this rule shall be made separately from other motions or requests and shall describe the specific conduct alleged to violate subdivision (b). It shall be served as provided in Rule 5, but shall not be filed with or presented to the court unless, within 21 days after service of the motion (or such other period as the court may prescribe), the challenged paper, claim, defense, contention, allegation, or denial is not withdrawn or appropriately corrected. If warranted, the court may award to the party prevailing on the motion the reasonable expenses and attorney's fees incurred in presenting or opposing the motion. Absent exceptional circumstances, a law firm shall be held jointly responsible for violations committed by its partners, associates, and employees.

(B) On Court's Initiative. On its own initiative, the court may enter an order describing the specific conduct that appears to violate subdivision (b) and directing an attorney, law firm, or party to show cause why it has not violated subdivision (b) with respect thereto.

(2) Nature of Sanction; Limitations. A sanction imposed for violation of this rule shall be limited to what is sufficient to deter repetition of such conduct or comparable conduct by others similarly situated. Subject to the limitations in subparagraphs (A) and (B), the sanction may consist of, or include, directives of a nonmonetary nature, an order to pay a penalty into court, or, if imposed on motion and warranted for effective deterrence, an order directing payment to the movant of some or all of the reasonable attorneys' fees and other expenses incurred as a direct result of the violation.

(A) Monetary sanctions may not be awarded against a represented party for a violation of subdivision (b)(2).

(B) Monetary sanctions may not be awarded on the court's initiative unless the court issues its order to show cause before a voluntary dismissal or settlement of the claims made by or against the party which is, or whose attorneys are, to be sanctioned.

(3) Order. When imposing sanctions, the court shall describe the conduct determined to constitute a violation of this rule and explain the basis for the sanction imposed.

(d) Inapplicability to Discovery.
Subdivisions (a) through (c) of this rule do not apply to disclosures and discovery requests, responses, objections, and motions that are subject to the provisions of Rules 26 through 37.


33 posted on 03/30/2007 2:09:45 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Hunter-Thompson '08)
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To: rawhide

The gloves are going to come off now.


35 posted on 03/30/2007 2:10:50 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: Regulator

If I was dragged into the courtroom, when asked a guestion I would respond "Islam is a gutter religion, Muhammed was a child molester, Muslims are inferior", stuff like that. Furhther, I would personally threaten bodily harm to each of the plaintiffs in open court. Sure Id be held in contempt but Id make headlines and come out writing books about the scourge of islam.(small i used to denote disrespect)


36 posted on 03/30/2007 2:11:19 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: MissEdie
I hope those passengers countersue them, for what I don't know or care, but I hope they defend themselves.

Maybe countersue for unnecessary anxiety or something like that. Especially if any of the passengers already had other issues such as previous heart problems (fear could cause an attack) or if someone was already nervous about flying in general. I am sure there are all sorts of things that could be brought up.

37 posted on 03/30/2007 2:11:26 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: rawhide

bttt


38 posted on 03/30/2007 2:14:42 PM PDT by hattend (Two thirds of the world is covered by water, the other third is covered by Champ Bailey - Go Broncos)
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks for that information; I hope this gets signed into law and quick.

I read that Congresscritters took off on holiday and won't be back until mid-April, but which time money for our troops has run out.


39 posted on 03/30/2007 2:14:48 PM PDT by Peach (The Clinton's' pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Txsleuth

I hope that Hannity and others can start some major fundraising so that the Imam-scum Islamo-fascists can be counter-sued so much they will be tied up until Allah greets them in H-E-L-L..... this is so outrageous, I knew after 9/11 we'd end up with a counter-action of PC-b.s. like this but I didn't think we'd have to watch individual passengers getting named in lawsuits just because they reported on suspicious behavior.....


40 posted on 03/30/2007 2:15:03 PM PDT by Enchante (Liefong, Fitzfong, Earlefong, Schumfong, Waxfong, Pelosifong.... see a pattern here?!?)
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