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Defending ourselves
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | March 30, 2007 | Diana West

Posted on 03/30/2007 9:33:42 AM PDT by 3AngelaD

Quick -- somebody promote Lt. Cmdr. Erik Horner for good instincts. "We not only have a right to self-defense but also an obligation to self-defense," the second-in-command officer of the USS Underwood said, referring to the surrender by 15 British sailors in Iraqi waters to Iranian forces last week. "[The British] had every right to defend themselves rather than allow themselves to be taken. Our reaction was, 'Why didn't you guys defend yourselves?' " Better to ask why the larger Western world didn't teach these sailors to defend themselves, both as their personal right and their societal obligation... When a civilization no longer inculcates an overriding attachment to its own survival, well, it no longer survives as a civilization... When the government of Britain recently responded to a recognized act of war against its military personnel by threatening diplomacy, a kind of emptiness to the whole British enterprise was exposed... This is incredible. This seemingly immutable restriction suggests that, according to current military and civilian thinking -- which together reflect a pretty clear consensus of elites -- the lives of allies under fire are of no greater value or significance than the lives of enemy sympathizers. And the enemy knows this, in Iraq and beyond, no doubt reveling in the safe haven of our fantastic objectivity. Such rules and restrictions, the product of politically correct developments in Western culture, foster a non-combative theory of combat. Surrender is an expression of this culture; so are rules of engagement that risk the lives of our people. Such a culture, whether acting by the book or by consensus, hardly supports a soldier's right and obligation to self-defense, let alone unleashes the warrior in pursuit of anything resembling victory. Which isn't to say this cultural trend is irreversible...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: britishsailors; terror
Amazing story about U.S. Marine Maj. William D. Chesarek Jr. whos was awarded Britain's Distinguished Flying Cross while serving as an exchange officer with an English Naval Air Squadron in Iraq, with good illustration of why things are going they way they are there.
1 posted on 03/30/2007 9:33:43 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD

President Ronald Reagan:

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.
We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream.
It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same,
or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children
and our children's children what it was once like in the United States
where men were free."

2 posted on 03/30/2007 9:38:10 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: 3AngelaD

Amazing...these sailors were out on rubber boats in grave danger (and still are) but how nice of the powers to try and negotiate with the enemy as the powers to be sit in their cushy offices. We ALL have the right to self defense and...those in charge should be protecting the rest of us as well. We voted them ALL into office to look after us. It's damn well time they began to do their jobs the way they should be done!!!


3 posted on 03/30/2007 9:41:09 AM PDT by cubreporter
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To: cubreporter

Lord Nelson: "...never consider as neutral any place from whence an attack is allowed to be made."


4 posted on 03/30/2007 9:44:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: cubreporter

We will be fighting in the streets before that happens...


5 posted on 03/30/2007 9:51:00 AM PDT by Edgerunner (I am here to learn...)
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To: 3AngelaD
I'm wondering just how damn long Tony Blair is going to tolerate the illegal imprisonment of not only UK military forces, but UK CITIZENS?

How long before we see something like THIS released by Iran:

[NOTE: parody ONLY, this is NOT an actual letter, mkj]


Dear British Parents:

I am Faye, your daughter. I am writing to you from Iran where I have decided to stay.

I explained to you in my first letter what has happened. I can't find the second letter but she wrote it.

The brilliant, friendly, hospitable and very compassionate Iranians have helped to reveal to me the truth of Islam.

I can no longer be part of Toni Blairs crusader war machine following the orders of the American devil George Double-U Bush.

I want you to sell all of your belongings and give the proceeds to the International Red Crescent, to help the starving Iranian children suffering due to the capitalist warmongers in London and Washington.

The Iranian people are destined to prevail and emerge victorious over the evil Zionists and their puppets in America and the UK (please be sure that a copy of this letter is sent to the BBC, as they have always been in the forefront of the battle to expose the evils of Zionism and the monkey-pig Israelites occupying the Islamic Holy Sites in Palestine).

I have written another letter to the Iranian people offering to bear the children of their brave jihadists to help win their struggle against the Great Satan and his Little Satan in Tell Aviv.

Do not worry mother, do not worry father. I am getting stronger by the day (even for a woman), and tomorrow we will be taking a field trip to the holy well where the 12th Imam will soon emerge in the remanifestation of Mohammed himself (Peace Be Upon Him).

As a gesture of good faith, I ask that you burn one Union Jack daily, but only when the BBC cameras are in front of the house.

Allah Akbar!

Signed: Faya Tunny

6 posted on 03/30/2007 9:55:32 AM PDT by mkjessup (If Reagan were still with us, he'd ask us to "win one more for the Gipper, vote for Duncan Hunter!")
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Memo to Dhimmocrats: when (not if) you allow Muslim terrorists to roam our U.S. streets & kill at random under your phony rhetoric of "tolerance", rest assured that I for one will defend myself, meaning shoot first and ask questions MUCH later.

And I won't give a damn about your crocodile tears shed over the poor, misunderstood terrorist...

7 posted on 03/30/2007 10:02:53 AM PDT by kromike
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To: 3AngelaD
the enemy knows this, in Iraq and beyond, no doubt reveling in the safe haven of our fantastic objectivity.

Quote of the day.

8 posted on 03/30/2007 10:13:59 AM PDT by Egon ("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
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To: kromike

And speaking of Muslims terrorists roaming the streets of America, see: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1809332/posts


9 posted on 03/30/2007 10:16:19 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: kromike

I think I can speak for a large number of citizens of the US that you will LOTS of company when the time comes.

AND IT IS COMING. Folks just refuse to listen..


10 posted on 03/30/2007 10:30:40 AM PDT by abseaman (only victory is moral; there is no virtue in failure)
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To: Edgerunner

Unfortunately...you are correct.


11 posted on 03/30/2007 2:11:53 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: 3AngelaD

Amen.


12 posted on 03/30/2007 2:12:23 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To: 3AngelaD

Seeing as how the Brits have recently passed legislation making some foundational tenets of Christianity, illegal, I say it couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch.


13 posted on 03/30/2007 2:19:17 PM PDT by papertyger
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