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FDA finds another poison in the recalled Pet Food -Presser @ 10:00 am EDT
Pet Connection.com and Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Friday March 30, 2007 | Milwaukee_Guy

Posted on 03/30/2007 6:23:02 AM PDT by Milwaukee_Guy

"Testing by the FDA and at least one lab independent of the agency found melamine, a chemical used in plastics and household textiles, in samples of the recalled pet food and in one of its ingredients -- wheat gluten -- said an FDA official and another source close to the investigation. Neither wanted to be identified prior to the FDA's formal announcement this morning."

"The FDA has not determined how melamine got into the pet food. Melamine is used as a fertilizer in Asia and has several commercial and industrial uses."

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


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To: WestCoastGal
I find most "pet" owners too cheap to take total responsibility for their animals well being - this stuff is pricy compared to the junk most animals are fed.

I find those statements both presumptuous and arrogant.

Not useful whatsoever.

I have little enough patience with neurotic controlling types who constantly feel entitled to criticize what I eat... and who feel compelled to tell me what I should eat.

81 posted on 03/30/2007 2:40:59 PM PDT by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: Publius6961

Sorry there, those weren't my words I copied a post someone sent me. I was only trying to pass along some useful information for those looking for safe food to feed their pets.


82 posted on 03/30/2007 2:48:02 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal
I feed raw, but for people who do not get Natures Variety Raw instinct or there is another new grain-free food available now called Natures Logic. Onlynaturalpet.com carries it at their website.

Everyone would do well to subscribe to Whole Dog Journal. They rate all the foods each year, good and bad. They are not supported by advertising so are not beholden to any one company to say things that are not true.

83 posted on 03/30/2007 3:01:02 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: WestCoastGal

I supplemented with Balance Diet for a while, but had a lot of problems with shipping and area to store. My neighbor had the same problem. Dick Van Patten's foods tend to be a little high in copper, Cockers (my breed) have a tendency to copper toxosis, so I stick to the raw diet with some Raw Instinct to supplement.


84 posted on 03/30/2007 3:03:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Publius6961; WestCoastGal

Are you a dog? She was discussing what people feed their dogs... and it's pretty pathetic, one reason so many dogs are sick and over weight. Dogs were a lot healthier back when they were fed table scraps and not vaccinated up the ying yang.


85 posted on 03/30/2007 3:05:27 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Old_Mil

That is what bothered me, the list of companies using Menu Foods for their manufacturing.... that and Menu issuing a notice in Canada late last year that there was a problem and specifically stating not for release in the USA... guess they were more worried about their stock than our pets.


86 posted on 03/30/2007 3:08:21 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Dogs and cats shoudn't even have wheat anything in their diets.

If my dogs hear you are saying they can't have pizza crusts I'm afraid your life might be in danger.

Good thing they can't read.

87 posted on 03/30/2007 3:12:36 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: Dinsdale

~LOL~.... no pizza crust Dinsdale's dogs! Bet they would love a good meaty beef rib to chew on for a day though... just cut off most of the fat and let them go at it, the meat acts like dental floss on their teeth and gums. When they start getting the edges sharp (long after the meat is gone) throw them away.


88 posted on 03/30/2007 3:15:14 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

The dog I just recently adopted is supposed to be a malti/poo but has ears as long as a cocker so I may have to re-think DVP's food. I will probably get it tomorrow anyway to tide me over until I can get something else since I'm concerned with the Iams dry.

We are very limited here [small town], so I will have to order over the internet.

The only concern I have with the raw food diet is they should be frozen according to the website and I don't have a very large freezer. If I read the info correctly raw foods will tend to mold if you don't freeze or use refrigerated food fast enough. Is that correct?


89 posted on 03/30/2007 3:15:18 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: WestCoastGal
we live in a small town, too. I buy most of my raw food from Hare-Today (a small family farm in Pennsylvania). Have a shipment of 50 pounds coming in today. I also buy my green tripe from Greentripe.com (saw them in your post). We have gone from only a house freeze to a freezer from Walmart to a large freezer from Home Depot ... I buy the meat in one-pound packages, mostly goat, rabbit, beef and pork...

The food from Hare-today is great (grass-fed) though coming to this side of the coast is expensive for shipping. In California I know there is quite a few raw co-ops..

Onlynaturalpet -- is located in Boulder and very reliable in their shipping. They have the Natures Logic and it looks good, no grains.... we give the Natures Variety Raw Instinct for breakfast and the raw for dinner... the raw from Hare contains tripe, bone, organs, etc., and I add about 1/4 green tripe. You give 2 - 3% of what the dog should weigh a day.

I make our dog cookies w/o grains and buy beef ribs for them to chew on along with dehydrated turkey liver and other good things. I usually buy from sitstay.com or onlynaturalpet.com.. good thing is my dogs are not fat or hyper (grains turn to sugar in dogs and it's like feeding pepsi to them to give grains) and almost never have to see a vet for anything.

A lot of people think it's difficult to feed raw, actually it's very easy... BTW Onlynaturalpet and sitstay both sell and ship Natures Variety Raw and both carry a freeze-dried raw (which is handy if you are traveling or have to have someone feed for you when you go away)...

90 posted on 03/30/2007 3:23:42 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: ikka
Was it a test run? Did they mix poison into the wheat gluten and it was only by accident that it ended up in pet food instead of human food?

My tinfoil hat theory is just this, but that it wasn't a test run but the real thing, since the poison did end up in the food supply. It's probably just bin-Murphy's Law that it ended up in the pet food supply instead of the human food supply.

-PJ

91 posted on 03/30/2007 3:27:20 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: WestCoastGal

Thanks so much to you (and everyone else) for all of the information.


92 posted on 03/30/2007 3:29:17 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: New Girl

Could you possibly post your recipe for the dog biscuits? Or perhaps there is a website with recipes.


93 posted on 03/30/2007 3:33:27 PM PDT by khnyny
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To: New Girl
Help! Can someone please recommend a high quality food not on the list?

Here's a post from another thread with a list of high-quality dry food for dogs.

I've been giving my dachshund Innova for years.

-PJ

94 posted on 03/30/2007 3:40:50 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Thank you so much for the sitstay website.

I found several items which look excellent. Their website is so much easier to navigate than one I was trying yesterday. Plus the other one only allowed Paypal payments and I'm not comfortable with using them even though I do have a card.


95 posted on 03/30/2007 3:53:55 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Dale Jr~ 5-31-07 ~ MIDNIGHT GIT-R-DONE --- Member of the F-I-R-M)
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To: Milwaukee_Guy; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
More puzzlement.


96 posted on 03/30/2007 4:05:38 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("By the way... who is Ben Dayho?" --60Gunner)
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To: WestCoastGal
sitstay and onlynaturalpet are both very good quality and reliable sites. I shop both and have for several years now.

Just announced a new recall from Science Diet dry cat food.... this is growing.

97 posted on 03/30/2007 4:26:21 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: boxerblues

Instead, try:

http://www.eaglepack.com/

They are not involved in the Menu problems and don't use the wheat gluten source that is apparently the source of the poison.

They have their own manufacturing plant.

I've used EaglePack for many years, and my dogs have always thrived on it. I highly recommend it.


98 posted on 03/30/2007 4:27:26 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: New Girl
It's because people keep demanding cheaper and cheaper goods and services. I fully expect the same contaminates are finding their way into our cookies, cakes, crackers, breads, etc...

Here is an article you might want to read, it changed how I feed my pets 9 years ago.

What's REally in Pet Food

99 posted on 03/30/2007 4:29:35 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: savedbygrace
Thank you I will look into it. I am trying very hard not to get paranoid about all this but I have to call my vet in the morning for my oldest dog as she has started throwing up this evening.
100 posted on 03/30/2007 4:38:06 PM PDT by boxerblues
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