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Liberals : why is the GOP still heading for '08 ?
Time Magazine ^ | 03 29 2007 | drzz

Posted on 03/29/2007 9:02:28 AM PDT by drzz

Why, in poll after poll, including the new TIME poll, does that advantage seem to disappear whenever voters are asked to pick a president in hypothetical head-to-head match-ups among front-runners with solid name recognition. In our poll, Hillary Clinton loses to John McCain, 42-48%, and to Rudy Giuliani 41-50%. Even though Clinton maintains a 7% edge over Obama among Democratic respondents, Obama fares better in the general election match-ups. It's so close that it's a statistical dead-heat, but Obama still loses: 43-45% to McCain, 44-45% to Giuliani.

It's hard to know exactly why respondents who are generally unhappy towards — and in many cases fed up with — the GOP might still prefer a Republican for president over a Democrat. Much of it has to do with the individual candidates involved. In Clinton's case, as TIME pollster Mark Schulman points out, "with Hillary the Democratic front-runner, most voters have made up their minds about her, both pro and con. She may have limited upward potential against Republicans. The emerging anti-Hillaries, Obama and Edwards, suffer from low awareness at this point."

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clinton; congress; elections; electionspresident; guliani; hilary; iran; iraq; mccain; romney; rudy
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Im sorry, I dont think anyone can say anything about Fred Thompson yet. Because nobody knows any of his positions. The baggage claim could also be bad for Thompson, who apparantly was quite the ladys man in his younger days. I think Thompson entering is just a poke in the ass from the establisment towards McCain.


21 posted on 03/29/2007 9:18:10 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: drzz

Because Hillary really makes Americans uneasy, and Obama doesn't have the experience.


22 posted on 03/29/2007 9:21:46 AM PDT by marsapan
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To: ChiTownBearFan
You underestimate the Ameirican people and the amount of TV they watch, they know the candidates, its all they talk about on the tube these days, I think your argument is probably coming from a positon of backing a candidate with no traction and hoping for some sort of change in the months before the election.

You underestimate the people who disagree with you. This is what I do for a living. I have been following and working with polls for nearly 20 years. I have helped draft polls and I have seen polls and focus groups that you have not seen nor will ever see.

I am not backing any candidate at this time though I do have some favorites.

As for the depth of interest by the public at this point, you are clearly living in an echo chamber. Go to your local mall and stop total strangers and ask them DETAILS about the presidential candidates and their policies. If you do that, you will come back agreeing with me.

23 posted on 03/29/2007 9:21:57 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: drzz

Could it be that just the mention of Mrs. Clinton's name, after her husband's presidency, causes a gut, finger-nails-on-a-blackboard response in a great number of people?


24 posted on 03/29/2007 9:22:27 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: drzz

So now you are threatening people who want to be in the PRIMARY? What exactly do YOU think the primaries are for, anyway?


25 posted on 03/29/2007 9:22:43 AM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!! Fear the Fred!! FreeRepublic is FRed country!!)
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To: ChiTownBearFan; OldFriend
Because nobody knows any of his positions.

LOL! They are out there, and those of us who know politics have already researched them.

Besides, if you were really concerned about issues, you would never back Rudy! He's all wrong.

Please back up the Thompson baggage claim. Posts get pulled for these sorts of empty claims, just ask Odfriend who made a really wild and spurious claim yesterday.

26 posted on 03/29/2007 9:22:53 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: ChiTownBearFan
A vote against him is a vote for Clinton, or worse Obama.

No, the way you should be looking at it is that a vote for Giuliani in the primary is a vote for Clinton/Obama, because conservatives will NOT put him in office. Same for McCain and Romney. You want a Republican to win, then put a conservative in the running. Period.
27 posted on 03/29/2007 9:23:25 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Actually I thought I typed "big" in there. Ah, well.


28 posted on 03/29/2007 9:23:35 AM PDT by RockinRight (Support FREDeralism. Fred Thompson in 2008!)
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To: drzz

My tagline spells it out.


29 posted on 03/29/2007 9:23:37 AM PDT by etradervic (In 2008, anyone but a Democrat!)
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To: drzz

Too early in the contest for these numbers to mean that much.


30 posted on 03/29/2007 9:24:46 AM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: flashbunny
"or as I like to call him, Reagan 2"

Thanks for the laugh!

Why not "Clinton 2" or maybe "Clinton in a dress"?

These Rudyites either don't understand Rudy or they didn't understand Reagan, because Rudy is far closer to ANY Democrat than he will ever be to Reagan.

31 posted on 03/29/2007 9:27:11 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: drzz

Are the editors at Time distressing over this poll? Sounds like it. Let them squirm.


32 posted on 03/29/2007 9:27:15 AM PDT by marsapan
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Whos bashing Reagan. I love the man. Im comparing my favorite candidate to him. I wish he could have served 3 terms. I was simply stating he had personal failings that today we say cant be our nominee. Reagan, the greatest conservative since Churchill, was divorced, a Hollywood actor and one time supporter of abortion, is the conservative icon and gave us Scalia on the high court.


33 posted on 03/29/2007 9:27:27 AM PDT by ChiTownBearFan ("To see the world is to love America all the more"-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ChiTownBearFan

"PEOPLE LOVE RUDY, or as I like to call him, Reagan 2."

Don't respond, just call 911. Do it quickly before you are completely overcome by the fumes.


34 posted on 03/29/2007 9:28:39 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: ChiTownBearFan

Comparing the not-worthy Giuliani to reagan is bashing. Giuliani doesn't have the class to wash reagans underwear.


35 posted on 03/29/2007 9:28:58 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: ChiTownBearFan

Reagan was a great leader of this nation who truly believed that America was good .

I have seen & watched Rudy for several years & get the impression that he is first & foremost a prosecutor & the kind that thinks that everybody is a perp that ain't been convicted yet.Instead of honest productive citizens. That kind of politician has as a default setting that people must be ruled with an mailed fist & at bayonet point.


36 posted on 03/29/2007 9:29:31 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner (.308 reach out & thump someone .50 cal.Browning Machine gun reach out & crush someone)
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To: etradervic
(In 2008, anyone but a Democrat!)

I'd like that alot better if it read liberal as opposed to democrat.

37 posted on 03/29/2007 9:30:30 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: drzz

Time Magazin does not understand why their readership is plunging to zero. They are hardly competent to answer this question.

(hint to time: It is not because there IS an internet, it is because of what information is ON the internet)


38 posted on 03/29/2007 9:31:24 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: flashbunny

Maybe he was talking about Ron Reagan, Jr.


39 posted on 03/29/2007 9:32:06 AM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: Fierce Allegiance

Democrats have gone way beyond being liberals.


40 posted on 03/29/2007 9:33:34 AM PDT by etradervic (In 2008, anyone but a Democrat!)
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