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Fred Thompson: Neocon Globalist
Enter Stage Right ^ | 3/26/07 | Basil Harrington

Posted on 03/29/2007 6:58:58 AM PDT by meg88

For the past few days, movement "conservatives" and GOP cheerleaders have been ecstatic that Fred Thompson, former senator from Tennessee, may form an exploratory committee to seek the GOP nomination for president. "Now we'll have a conservative in there," said one person, who, I assume, has no idea what a real conservative is.

There already are two fine conservative candidates seeking the nomination: Ron Paul and Tom Tancredo. And Fred Thompson does not even come close measuring up to them.

Fred Thompson is a neocon globalist.

First and foremost, let's look at immigration. A third-world invasion of the USA is taking place, and it is up to patriots to stop it.

As Jean Raspail taught us in Camp of the Saints, "the greatest conservative novel ever written," we can fight back and reverse the invasion, or we can watch the West be destroyed.

Although Fred Thompson is tougher than McCain and Giuliani on border enforcement, which isn't saying much seeing how they line up with Barack Obama, he had a rather lackluster record on immigration while in the Senate.

As one commentator notes: "Overall, Americans for Better Immigration gives [Thompson] a career grade of C; on chain migration, C; visa lottery, C-; reducing unnecessary visas, F; on reducing asylum fraud, C-; on reducing amnesties, D; and on interior enforcement, C+. Although he was tough on border control, he was lacking in almost every other area." [1]

Fred Thompson also supports affirmative action, and ideologically worships free trade, regardless how much it harms America. Historically, conservatives have opposed free trade, but Thompson, like others, has been "neoconned" into backing it.

He furthermore is a "fellow" at the American Enterprise Institute, one of the largest neocon think-tanks, which demonstrates where his true loyalty lies. If you did not receive the Burkean memo, the transformation of the Middle East to liberal democracy is Jacobin, not conservative. There is not a single thing conservative about the membership of AEI. They are neocon / neoliberal globalists.

Why are neoncons backing Thompson? Ideally, being ex-Trotskyites themselves, neocons would prefer a liberal candidate, like McCain, Giuliani or Romney. But they see that conservatives deplore these candidates, and now are going to try to peddle Fred Thompson, who is just socially conservative enough and just tough enough on the borders, even if it is feigned, to woo naive GOP voters. But let's hope this nefarious neocon plot fails.

Let's pray that the more real conservatives learn about Fred Thompson, the more unacceptable he will appear


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1percenters; 2008; basilharrington; birch; electionpresident; elections; fred; fringers; icecreammandrake; jbs; neoconsundermybed; onepercenters; preciousbodilyfluids; sapandimpurify; thompson; tinfoilhat
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To: meg88

Im getting really sick of these articles no matter who its about


No one is good enough apparantly


81 posted on 03/29/2007 7:57:24 AM PDT by woofie
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To: Rick.Donaldson

"Who invented this idiotic word, "Neocon" anyway?"

A far leftist who was very upset that people who formerly were confused and identified as 'liberal' (in the classic sense, not the socialist sense) were realizing that 'liberalism' had nothing to do with liberty and were turning to conservatism.

Even the wiki site has a reference to this:

"In the early 1970s, Socialist Michael Harrington prominently used the term in a manner similar to the modern meaning. He characterized neoconservatives as former leftists -- whom he derided as "socialists for Nixon" -- who had moved significantly to the right."

The intended purpose of the term is to divide us so that we lose elections.


82 posted on 03/29/2007 7:58:06 AM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: neocon1984
It is also a code word for "Jew". Many of the early neocons in the late 1970's and early 1980's were Jewish intellectuals who had been Democrats in a previous life.

That has always been my opinion, if you listed to the Jewish bashers that call c-span, they drip with venom when they use the word.

83 posted on 03/29/2007 7:59:03 AM PDT by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: meg88

Willie Green?


85 posted on 03/29/2007 8:01:57 AM PDT by RWR8189 (Fred Thompson for the GOP Nomination; A Republican for President)
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To: KDD
The Project for the New American Century

Study carefully...to see what is planned for us by the neocons.

Training our soldiers to be policemen all over the world.

86 posted on 03/29/2007 8:04:58 AM PDT by KDD (Ron Paul for President)
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To: neocon1984

Thanks for the elaborate description. That about sums it up. It is a mean-spirited insult labeling those who left the plantation for greener pastures. Much like when blacks are called "Uncle Tom" and such when they "abandon" the Democrat Party.


87 posted on 03/29/2007 8:05:54 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: RockinRight
Unfortunately, the Republican Party left the whole balanced budget goal behind a while ago. There seems to be an incorrect belief, subscribed to by top members of the Bush Administration, that "deficits don't matter". But they do.

And an oversized federal government is pretty inevitably a statist federal government, along the lines of the U.S.S.R.

88 posted on 03/29/2007 8:06:14 AM PDT by Giant Conservative
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Carter, Clinton, and Bush

There is another pattern that we may need to scrutinize in the near future:

LBJ - South
Carter - South
Clinton - South
Bush - South

None of them have been that stellar in office. Maybe it has to do with the region. Maybe it is time to look to other geographical areas.
89 posted on 03/29/2007 8:06:35 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: meg88
Basil Harrington ???

What a moron, as well as ...well, I won't go that far.

The neocons? what is a neocon? I guess they are coming to get us, hahaha I always thought it was a stupid term.
90 posted on 03/29/2007 8:06:59 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: Ladysmith
No kidding. Every time I see "neocon" used, the definition has apparently changed.

Neocon has transformed into meaning "Evil Pubbie Warmonger" or basically anyone who isn't a 100% anti-war lib. It has been overused and has lost any true meaning kinda like Nazi and Fascist.
91 posted on 03/29/2007 8:08:36 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (The United States of America is the only country strong enough to go it alone.)
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To: meg88

Well by this guy's definition I think I end up being a neocon globalist myself. Thompson interests me, but I'm still in the Romney camp so far.


92 posted on 03/29/2007 8:10:14 AM PDT by xjcsa (The "average temperature" of the earth is as meaningful as the "average number" in a phone book.)
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To: kots
ok, we need more information on his race preference position and his amnesty position. If he is clearly against both then I would be happy to support for him.

Part of the problem here is that illegal immigration just wasn't on anybody's radar screens back when Fred was in public service. There was no reason to vote on anything related to this issue, and nothing to vote on anywise, back when he was in the Senate. His public statements for the last month seem to indicate that he takes a sensible, pro-enforcement position, however.

Still, he has no executive experience. Leader of the free world and commander in chief should not be entry level executive position. Ideally (from executive experience point of view), governor or maybe somebody like Tommy Franks (general), Guliani (big city mayor), Romney (governor, CEO).

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this then. I don't believe executive experience in completely different levels of government is an indicator of how good a man will be as President. Being a big city mayor or a state governour isn't the same as having to deal with issues at a federal level. And at this level, Fred has more overall experience than either Rudy or Mitt, though not as much as McCain. Further, Rudy's record as NYC mayor not only doesn't impress me, but actually bothers me a great deal.

93 posted on 03/29/2007 8:11:05 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (A member of the Frederalist Party)
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To: meg88; sitetest; madprof98
Unquestionably, Giuliani is fanatically pro-abortion, and would use the Presidency to push his views. That is one reason why he must never become President. The next Republican President will very likely replace two liberal Supreme Court justices, and so that President will need to be one who is committed to having the baby-killing horror that is Roe vs. Wade overturned.
94 posted on 03/29/2007 8:11:41 AM PDT by Giant Conservative
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To: Vaquero
"AWESOME FACTS ABOUT FRED THOMPSON"

Lovely...I wish some of them were true, hahaha.
95 posted on 03/29/2007 8:13:16 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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To: SE Mom
I dream of a TV debate between Fred and Mrs. Bill Clinton.

"There you go again, Hillary" pops into my mind.

96 posted on 03/29/2007 8:13:48 AM PDT by ssaftler (Eccentric: A crazy person with lots of money.)
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To: TomGuy
LBJ - South Carter - South Clinton - South Bush - South

I think it may have more to do with

LBJ - Liberal
Carter - Liberal
CLinton - Liberal
Bush - Not really all that conservative

Which is odd, because the South is still the most conservative section of the country.

97 posted on 03/29/2007 8:14:01 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (A member of the Frederalist Party)
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To: Giant Conservative

I am one of those conservatives who gets really fed up with Republicans acting like faux Democrats to try to win the favor of the beltway press. If I wanted a Democrat to represent me, I would vote for the real thing.

It's very easy to get discouraged about voting after the waterboarding the press and Hollywood have given Republicans. Many days I think about giving up on politics altogether.


98 posted on 03/29/2007 8:15:20 AM PDT by chickadee
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To: Always Right

Fred is not my first choice, but that said I could support him.


99 posted on 03/29/2007 8:16:36 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: meg88

100 posted on 03/29/2007 8:17:32 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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