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Bush Demands War Bill With No Strings
Las Vegas Sun ^ | : March 28, 2007 at 13:45:5 PDT | DAVID ESPO AP Special Corresponden

Posted on 03/28/2007 2:28:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

WASHINGTON (AP) -

President Bush and the Democratic-controlled Congress lurched toward a veto showdown over Iraq on Wednesday, the commander in chief demanding a replenishment of war funding with no strings and Speaker Nancy Pelosi counseling him, "Calm down, take a breath."

Bush said imposition of a"specific and random date of withdrawal would be disastrous" for U.S. troops in Iraq and he predicted that lawmakers would take the blame if the money ran short.

"The clock is ticking for our troops in the field," he said. "If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on the front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible."

Bush spoke as the Senate moved toward passage of legislation that would require the beginning of a troop withdrawal within 120 days, and would set a goal of March 31, 2008, for its completion.

The House approved a more sweeping measure last week, including a mandatory withdrawal deadline for nearly all combat troops of Sept. 1, 2008.

Both bills would provide more than $90 billion to sustain military efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

After passage, the next step would be a House-Senate compromise measure almost certain to include conditions that Bush has said he finds objectionable, and the president's remarks seemed designed to lay the political groundwork for a veto showdown with the new Democratic majority later this spring.

Confidently predicting his veto would be sustained in Congress, he said, "Funding for our forces in Iraq will begin to run out in mid-April. Members of Congress need to stop making political statements, and start providing vital funds for our troops. They need to get that bill to my desk so I can sign it into law."

One key Democrat with longtime ties to the Pentagon, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said Bush was exaggerating, and he estimated the real deadline for a fresh infusion of funds was June 1.

Gordon Adams, a former Clinton administration official specializing in defense issues, said the Pentagon has authority to transfer existing funds between accounts. "So into June, while it's painful, it's possible" for the military to maintain operations, he said.

Democratic leaders, determined to force Bush to change course in Iraq, also disputed his contention that Congress would be to blame for any funding difficulties in a war they have vowed to end.

"Why doesn't he get real with what's going on with the world?" said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. "We're not holding up funding in Iraq and he knows that. Why doesn't he deal with the real issues facing the American people?"

Pelosi responded to Bush with a blend of conciliation and challenge.

"On this very important matter, I would extend a hand of friendship to the president, just to say to him, 'Calm down, take a breath," she said. "There's new Congress in town. We accept your constitutional role. We want you to accept ours."

Democrats took control of Congress in January after elections framed by voter dissatisfaction over a war that has now claimed the lives of more than 3,200 U.S. troops and cost more than $350 billion.

"This war must end. The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of the war. Let's see how we can work together," added Pelosi, D-Calif.

Whatever the outcome, the confrontation bore similarities to a veto fight of a dozen years ago. At the time, a new, Republican-controlled Congress promised steep spending cutbacks to balance the budget, and a politically weakened president of the other party refused to go along.

A pair of government shutdowns ensued - including one that lasted 21 days - and Republicans bore the brunt of the public's unhappiness. In the end, the new GOP majority surrendered, and Bill Clinton exploited the episode to help rehabilitate his standing with the voters.

Apart from the Iraq provisions, the Senate legislation includes about $20 billion in domestic spending that Bush did not ask for. Republicans readied an attempt to strip out much of it, and Bush listed it as among the bill's objectionable features.

"Here's the bottom line: The House and Senate bills have too much pork," he said. He got a laugh at lawmakers' expense when he said $3.5 million was included "for visitors to tour the Capitol and see for themselves how Congress works." The funds are for a new underground Capitol visitor center, over-budget and still incomplete years after its initial target date.

Congress seemed to have little appetite for curbing spending, though.

A few hours after the president spoke, the Senate voted 75-22 in favor of a proposal by Ron Wyden, D-Ore. to extend payments that rural counties receive to make up for the loss of revenue from federal lands. The cost was about $5 billion, to be financed by increased penalties for taxpayers who provide false information to the IRS.

The Senate bill also contains previously passed legislation to raise the minimum wage by $2.10 in three steps, along with $12 billion in tax cuts. That was well above the $8.3 billion in tax cuts that cleared the Senate earlier this year - a level that Pelosi and House Democrats have deemed excessive.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqsurge; murtha; pelosi; reid; theratsfearbush; theyfearbush; theyfearhim
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1 posted on 03/28/2007 2:28:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

veto ping


2 posted on 03/28/2007 2:31:50 PM PDT by unkus
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Those aren't strings. They are bribes. They are the politicians way of saying we will sacrifice our 'principled stance against this war' in exchange for some money.


3 posted on 03/28/2007 2:32:10 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
I'm no Bush fan but every time Reid and Pelosi open their mouthes, they simply confirm what vermin they truly are.
4 posted on 03/28/2007 2:33:04 PM PDT by isrul
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"...and Speaker Nancy Pelosi counseling him, "Calm down, take a breath.""

B!tch


5 posted on 03/28/2007 2:33:54 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

about 5 years too late I'm athinkin'.


6 posted on 03/28/2007 2:34:57 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Buck W.; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Allegra; tobyhill; ..

Absolutely!!!


7 posted on 03/28/2007 2:35:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"If Congress fails to pass a bill to fund our troops on the front lines, the American people will know who to hold responsible."


Alrighty now, Bushie.


8 posted on 03/28/2007 2:38:38 PM PDT by katieanna
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"On this very important matter, I would extend a hand of friendship to the president, just to say to him, 'Calm down, take a breath," she said. "There's new Congress in town. We accept your constitutional role. We want you to accept ours."

OMG!!! What a raging B I T C H !!!!!!!!!! W have more than one war going on!


9 posted on 03/28/2007 2:39:20 PM PDT by Aria (NO RAPIST ENABELER FOR PRESIDENT!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bush should begin immediately shutting down Defense Contracts and Purchasing to provide funding for the surge. 90 Billion worth of Delays and Deferrals of Defense spending will send happy voters to wake the current Congress up.

Probably not possible due to McNamara's method of separately funding Defense Contracts, but who knows. This would be the best solution. To continue the funding for the most important functions of the Military and letting long term acquisitions be put on hold until the problem is resolved.

10 posted on 03/28/2007 2:40:25 PM PDT by dalight
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bush will blink first.


11 posted on 03/28/2007 2:43:52 PM PDT by surely_you_jest
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To: katieanna

yep and they have seats to protect not Bush, so bring it on
Go Dubya


12 posted on 03/28/2007 2:45:13 PM PDT by italianquaker ("blue dog democrats", that dog dont hunt)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just curious; What exactly do the Treasoncrats think will happen if we pull out premature?

This is something I`ve yet to hear from the Treasoncrats, or maybe they just don`t care?

All I ever hear from them is "withdraw withdraw withdraw, retreat retreat" but none of them talk about the result.

"Sorry men, we gotta pull back. Nancys orders."

"Ooooo! Victory!"

"Thank you Nancy for letting millions die just so you can massage your psychotic ego."

13 posted on 03/28/2007 2:45:42 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: dalight

And make sure that the programs that are shut down are housed in primarily DEMOCRATIC districts.

Time to play hardball.

}:-)4


14 posted on 03/28/2007 2:46:24 PM PDT by Moose4 (I don't speed in Durham--if I get pulled for 65 in a 55, Mike Nifong'll have me doing 15 to life.)
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To: Moose4

That might happen accidentally.


15 posted on 03/28/2007 2:47:47 PM PDT by dalight
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To: Aria
If she really respected the Constitutional roles then she would realize that passing a bill that tries to determine a tactical maneuver like retreat is a clear violation of the separation of powers. Her only Constitutional authorities are to declare war and fund or not fund the war.
16 posted on 03/28/2007 2:48:55 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's a thought: Bush should sign the bill, take the money, and write a signing statement saying he is not going to honor the withdrawal language.

He's used hundreds of signing statements in place of line-item vetos and no one has ever been able to challenge him on it. Besides, the senate withdrawal nonsense is non-binding, anyway. So, who cares?

I want the money right now for our troops. This should not be delayed.

17 posted on 03/28/2007 2:48:56 PM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Pelosi is America's new sweetheart. After all. Her party was voted in to lead this country. Now pay the price America.


18 posted on 03/28/2007 2:50:05 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

"Oooo! We don`t care about millions of babies being butchered every year so why should we care about millions of adults? We Treasoncrats say withdraw and let the holocaust deniers have their way!"

"Thank you Nancy, you are all heart!"

19 posted on 03/28/2007 2:50:22 PM PDT by Screamname (The only reason time exists is so everything doesn`t happen all at once - Albert Einstein)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"This war must end. The American people have lost faith in the president's conduct of the war. Let's see how we can work together," added Pelosi, D-Calif.

I am sick of these morons speaking for me.
They do not speak for the American People, only themselves.
20 posted on 03/28/2007 2:54:07 PM PDT by GoldMan (Never try to rationalize an irrational mind............)
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