Posted on 03/28/2007 11:29:12 AM PDT by meg88
"In fact, E. Howard swore to Laura that he knew nothing about JFK's assassination; it was one of her preconditions for marriage."
That is one of the funniest lines I have ever come across in all of my 43 years of reading.
I have a Mannlicher Caranco 91/38, not a bad little rifle, but I can't see anyone using a scope could get off three rounds at a moving target.
Oswald was a Marine and if you know USMC training, it's indoctrination that the Marine and his rifle are a unit .. a combined killing machine.
I suspect Oswald would have been happier with an M-1 than with a cheap import. Or even a Star Gaugae '03 Springfield if he could afford one
On the other hand, I can't see Bobby K. just letting go of his brother being killed.
That's simply not in our Irish nature.
The Warren Report? A lot of garbage and filler (Dental records? lol)
I saw the photo... the "guy" was Congressman Albert Thomas, from Houston and he was a better friend of Kennedy than of Johnson. Thomas was old (he was a WWI vet) and had wanted to retire in 1962 and Kennedy talked him out of retirement to make sure the Democrats held that seat. As to the photo, is he winking? I can't tell ... his face is mostly out of focus. And is LBJ even looking at him, or was he looking at Lady Bird? I don't know that either.
And what if it were a wink --- what the hell does that mean? Considering the man had just taken the oath of office as the President of the United States under horrible circumstances, how would one at least acknowledge that fact? Seems cheers and high-fives would be out of place and the cabin of that 707 was a little tight for formal reception lines.
This conspiracy stuff drives me nuts and with the internet today, it only took me 30 seconds to look it up yet there are kook web sites out there who do identify the guy as Carl Albert. Like all conspiracy crap, they are long on innuendo and short on facts.
1. Why would a scope make an difference on the number of rounds you could get off?
2. The "target' was not a deer bounding through the woods. It was slow moving in nearly prefect alignment with the line of fire.
Visit the School Book Depository some time. You can stand there in the 6th floor and look out from the window directly next to the one Oswald fired from. I don't claim to be a great marksman, but I could have hit that target 2 out of 3 and in fact, the angel and distances have been recreated many times and even average marksmen have done it.
I don't know one way or the other but wasn't Oswald a Marine?
I'm pretty sure he could shoot and that shot has been easily replicated with the exact same type rifle.
That doesn't mean I don't buy into the second spitter theory.
You were doing pretty good until the part where you said we can know that god exists through reason but we only know the sun exists through faith. You are turning words upside down for your amusment, I guess.
Because she'd just seen he husband's head explode while she was staring straight into his eyes from almost nose to nose distance?
I have a Mannlicher Caranco 91/38, not a bad little rifle, but I can't see anyone using a scope could get off three rounds at a moving target.
I do not have one, so I cannot test how quickly one could shoot it. But remember that the first shot would already have chambered.
I do not know how well Oswald's Marine indoctrination went. He fit the classic loner-chip-on-his-shoulder mentality, so I doubt he was a good Marine.
Nope. We can know God exists through reason alone, by any of several logical means. (St Anselm's, for one; Descartes, for another; I leave it to you to look up the specifics. Search under "ontological proofs of God".) We can also know God directly, from direct experience, without the use of reason or the senses.
As for the sun: we do not know it exists. We can see, feel, and measure the Sun's output, but we cannot demonstrate that these observations bear any relation to any object outside our own minds. For all we know we are cosmic sleepers, dreaming about something called a "sun". For all we know we are disembodied brains floating in some vat and "living" in a Matrix-style computer simulatied world. Any piece of evidence that you can cite for the existence of the sun could be faked or simulated. Of course, I believe in the existence of the sun (and the physical universe along with it), but belief is not certainty; it is an act of faith. I have faith that what my senses show me is a real world, but I can't "prove" it.
And who is the "me" my senses show these things to, anyway?
I think she was trying to pick up pieces of his head? Kind of tells me the point of impact was from the front.
I looked it up and saw it, as well. It seems to me that he is winking, and you can tell that LBJ is smiling (even though you can't see the front of his face, you can tell that he is smiling because of the way the side of his face look, if that makes sense). What does it prove? Nothing, really. Nothing at all. Yes, "high fives" would be out of place, for sure.
As for conspiracies in general, I find many to be unconvincing but all are fascinating. But if you are taking the position that all are "crap," I believe you are wrong. I believe in a bare few of them, and a plot to kill JFK is one, for sure. Cuban exiles and Mafia types, in particular, had good reason to participate in the plot to kill JFK.
In February, 2001, the writer, C. David Heymann, asked Cord Meyer about the death of Mary Pinchot Meyer: "My father died of a heart attack the same year Mary was killed , " he whispered. "It was a bad time." And what could he say about Mary Meyer? Who had committed such a heinous crime? "The same sons of bitches," he hissed, "that killed John F. Kennedy."
Cord Meyer died of lymphoma on 13th March, 2001.
Supposedly Oliver Stone is keeping himself healthy for that day
That must have been wuite a marriage!
Congress committee in late 1970's concluded there was a "likely" conspiracy.
So say you. Also, I haven't fallen into anything. I have read just about every book written on the subject, I lived 40 miles from Dallas in 1963, Oswald's daughter was in my 1st grade class, and I've met his brother, Robert Oswald. There are too many things that happened that do not add up. All you have to do is watch the Zapruder film, and it is obvious that the fatal shot came from the front. The police officer riding behind the car and on the left was sprayed with blood and brain tissue. That would not happen with a shot from behind. Numerous other things do not make sense if Oswald was the "lone assasin".
For sure???
Come on. Post your best evidence that makes it "for sure." The Conspiracy Industry can't even decide if it was Nixon, LBJ, The Mafia, Castro, the FBI, CIA, the South Vietnamese or some husband of a broad that Kennedy shagged. But they're all "sure" that there was a plot.
The only things I am sure of is that any conspiracy that involves more than two people will never stay secret, and that the Warren Commission report fits all of the facts available --- then or now. People have been shooting at it for over 40 years, and no one has yet demonstrated that it is wrong on any of its material conclusions.
I have seen no evidence to make me "sure" of anything other than publishing conspiracy theories can be 'fun and profitable' no matter how far out they are. There is a market of suckers who will buy them.
Source?
Whether there was a conspiracy to kill JFK or not, LBJ's reaction is immaterial. If we heard today or tomorrow that B.J. Clinton or Ted "The Hero of Chappaquiddick" Kennedy was assassinated, don't you think it possible, or even likely that some of us might smile or wink? That would not mean we were involved, mind you.
Not many people have witnessed what Gen. Patton described as "putting your hand into a bunch of goo that a few moments before was your best friend's face". I think that a sheltered debutante like Jackie would likely evacuate the premises forthwith after what she'd witnessed. I do not subscribe to the "picking up pieces of head" scenario. But, you feel free to do so if you wish.
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