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Posted on 03/27/2007 5:12:46 AM PDT by VRing
The man leveled his gun at Nicole Thompson's face.
Moments later, he had the mother of four on the ground with the barrel to the back of her head. According to her and her husband, the man screamed, "If you move, I'll shoot you in the f-- head!"
"A salvo of screamed profanities announces the officers' presence."
So any time I hear 'a salvo of screamed profanities', I should assume that it's the police? < /sarc >
No. When they arrive on the scene, the unknown person has Baker subdued and up against the wall. The unknown person's wife is on the phone with the 911 dispatch. That's the person the cops threatened to shoot in the f'n head.
"What are they supposed to do? Politely ask everyone to calm down so they can figure out what's going on?
Yes. " Should they ignore the likelyhood that this is a drug buy going bad, and gunfire may break out at any moment?"
No.
"I'm sure that they could have been more polite and they could have refrained from cursing (the article does seem to make a big deal out of the officers cursing).
Yeah, it seems the folks at the paper expected to see a level of professionalism that wasn't displayed in this incident.
" It appears to me from the story that they had probable cause to search the house."
They had zero probable cause. The perps had never entered the house and I'm sure the homeowner didn't act like a bad guy. Neither did his wife, who was on the phone with the 911 dispatch center. That alone would should have been their clue, that the home was not a drug store. Don't think the dispatcher and the cops did not have contact, they did.
" The story posted by bvw reads as if it were written by the Thompsons' attorney, to publicise a lawsuit. "
So? They deserve to be both sued and reprimanded.
"Nobody was shot, and the Thompsons' were not hauled off to jail."
Whoopty do. The Thompson's were assaulted by thugs at gunpoint, and they were not given the coutesy a citizen deserves. Furthermore the cops were led by a team of criminals, and didn't pay attn to that fact, or their own wire. The conversation over the wire didn't included the homeowner, and at the time of the officer's approach, the homeowner had both up against the wall. It's clear the LEOs iinvolved, especially the one in charge are incompetent and failed to recognize the reality of the situation. Instead they insisted on playing hard core. There were no exigent circumatances here, only a complete failure to act as professionals.
My woman is 30, white, professional. Never even got a ticket... she actively fears and dislikes the police. and we even have friends that are police.
Why is this? When I was growing up in Philly, we did not see the police that often but when we did we would wave and if they were stopped, we would talk with them.
It seems that it began to change in the late 80's/early 90's... police became sneaky. No longer were police visible in off colored patrol cars. Look at what we have now, sneaky unmarked cars and patrol cars that do not look like patrol cars.
1984 was off by a decade
No one had cellphones in those days and no one was home, so I left someone else to watch after the man while I went in search of a payphone or a copcar.
I found TWO of them swapping clues in a nearby shopping center. I approached with my hands up and asked for assistance down the street with the letter carrier.
You'd thought I'd just interrupted the most important meeting in the world. It was all "F word" this and "Wadda' you want", and "We weren't called".
Went and found another cop, called in and complained about the two I'd met at the parking lot earlier.
Haven't trusted any of them since ~ best to approach with caution as if they were wild animals near rut, and be prepared to complain later when it's safer.
So far they haven't let me down.
I had guessed Chicago PD, but I see you are in Indiana.
That is sad.
I mean, you're experience was sad, not that you're in Indiana. Indiana is a fine place. :-)
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Interesting responses to the thread, wouldn't you say?
Fairly normal for an invasion of privacy/trampling of rights thread I'd say.
They'll be here. They always are. Anything is o.k. as long it is done in the name of the WoD or WoT.
Oh please, this has nothing to do with the "socialist agenda" but the product of social conservatives - especially the 'law and order" ones and the drug warriors.
We can thank Scalia and Rhenquist for this - not Breyer and Ginsburg.
Very wise words. Once upon a time everyone considered the police their friends - now people know to avoid the cops at all cost unless it is the absolute last resort.
Lucky for these honorable defenders of liberty sworn to protect and serve that there wasn't an 80 year old lady with a revolver behind the door or they'd be ventilated like thier esteemed colleagues in Atlanta, GA!
When will we pass a law that allows us to summarily hang these jack booted thugs from the nearest tree?
As soon as people put away thier programmed emotional response to the idea of decriminalizing and erasing the strict controls on recreational drugs such as Marijuanna.
Yet another reason to end the failed war on some drugs.
This get the drug dealers at all costs cr@p has got to stop. It's not worth what it's doing to innocent citizens.
More people have died from botched drug raids in the last 2 years then have died from a marijuanna overdose in the last 40 years. Think about that!
I just wish the cops and the government would get a s equally excited about detaining and deporting illegals...especially those that have already been deported and continue to commit other crimes.
So do the two border guards serving time in prison for shooting an illegal alien drug smuggler! He got immunity and a free ticket to smuggle more dope, they got prison.
It appears to me from the story that they had probable cause to search the house.
Are you crazy!!?? They didn't know anything about the house, by your logic the police should search every house they don't know is being investigated for drug activity!
If anyone without a badge did what these thugs did that person would be in prison for kidnapping, assault with a deadly weapon, breaking and entering, terroristic threats, and on and on.
No what these "LEO's" did was extremely and clearly criminal.
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