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Thompson Takes Bites Out of Giuliani, Romney
NY Sun ^ | March 26, 2007 | RYAN SAGER

Posted on 03/26/2007 4:04:48 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

posted 5:21 pm EDT A D V E R T I S E M E N T A D V E R T I S E M E N T

The latest USA Today/Gallup poll, conducted Friday through Sunday, on the presidential race is out, and it's a humdinger. It's hard to say what the headline even is. Here are a few tries, though:

* Romney's support drops to within the margin of error of not existing (that's 3% support in a poll where the margin of error is 3%).

* Giuliani's support drops 13 percentage points since the last USA Today/ Gallup poll, March 2-4 (that's gotta hurt).

* Fred Thompson (not running, by the way) is now the No. 3 in the GOP field, at 12%.

Read the whole story at NYSunPolitics.com.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; fredthompson; giuliani; romney; thompson
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To: TAdams8591; Neu Pragmatist
When I think of the two of them, McCain and Thompson as political buddies it sure does make one wonder about their bag of tricks!

Romney is a steady force just like the Tortoise and the Rabbit and we know who won that race!:)

241 posted on 03/26/2007 8:46:51 PM PDT by restornu (Accept Nothing Until It Is Verified)
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To: Torie
Thompson if he is focused and disciplined, and gets in somewhat sooner than the fall, could derail Rudy

Good luck with that. .. The only other alternative is Romney, IMO, who might have more going for him than it looks like now.

242 posted on 03/26/2007 8:48:03 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Torie

I think one day, when humanity is better understood, we will know that we were killing people in the womb, just as germans know now they were killing people, and just as we know now we were enslaving and killing people in our past.

Yes, there was a time when we treated people like property, and deemed then "less than human" and killed them without any concern of being held to blame.

Don't you think there were germans who were arguing that jews were really persons and should not be killed, while others argued the opposite? Don't you think those germans arguing for non-personhood thought they were people of "good conscience" who had science on their side?

A lot of people do find it easier to imagine that an entire nation of people were actually devils incarnate, like Ted Bundy. But most Germans were people like you and me, convinced by their government, their scientists, their culture, and their society that jews weren't human and therefore didn't need to be treated like people.

Just like most people in our country are convinced that people can't be really 'people' until they are separated from their mothers.


243 posted on 03/26/2007 8:51:39 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FredHunter08

Yes, I think the ferret thing is one of those issues where Rudy was more of an authoritarian than a liberal.

A liberal would allow you to have ferrets, but tax them.


244 posted on 03/26/2007 8:53:08 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Torie

I guess in the 1930's, Nazis didn't even consider themselves Nazis.


245 posted on 03/26/2007 8:53:33 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
"Yes, I think the ferret thing is one of those issues where Rudy was more of an authoritarian than a liberal. "

Liberals *are* authoritarians.
246 posted on 03/26/2007 8:54:05 PM PDT by FredHunter08 (Guiliani! Come and Take Them!)
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To: spacekicker

"More indication that the world is ready for a Command in Chief with a pair down below"


Unless she's had a major "lift" that could very well be Hillary!


247 posted on 03/26/2007 8:56:06 PM PDT by Grunthor (Outside a dog a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read.)
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To: Graymatter

Quick trigger finger. :)


248 posted on 03/26/2007 8:56:47 PM PDT by Pistolshot (Thompson '08)
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To: narses; Torie
It amazes me, narses, that this person actually considers herself a "social conservative". Millions of unborn babies are slaughtered every year; and yet, liberals do their best to try to minimize how horrific and evil this act of murder is. Anyone who denies that the butchering of innocent unborn children is not on the same level as what the Nazi's did, to the Jews, are NOT social conservatives. Never will they be able to convince me otherwise.

As Jim Robinson said not to long ago....

"Never in my worst nightmares would I believe Republicans, much less FReepers, would willingly go along with the wholesale slaughter of our helpless unborn generations. Shameful. May God forgive us."

May God forgive us indeed!
249 posted on 03/26/2007 8:58:38 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: Torie

OH MY GOSH!! Giuliani has NO discipline whatsoever. He makes stupid impulsive decisions, and then tries to fix them when the fall out starts. He hits on everything that moves, and uses public money to support/protect/transport his mistresses.


250 posted on 03/26/2007 9:07:03 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Thompson/Watts in 2008!! Fear the Fred!!)
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To: Torie
My tentative sense is that unless Rudy self implodes (unlikely) Fred Thompson is the only tangibly realistic roadblock to Rudy. Thompson if he is focused and disciplined, and gets in somewhat sooner than the fall, could derail Rudy. I don't see any other GOP candidate doing that, at the moment.

Interesting. It's still early and anyone could make a mistake. I noticed that McCain has said he's not going to make his fund raising goal for this quarter. I don't know how Rudy is doing money wise?

My guess is that because Feb 5th is going to be such an important primary date - making Iowa, NH and SC all the more important - a candidate is not going to just need boatloads of money - they are going to need healthy organizations in each state. I just don't know if there really is a luxury of waiting very long to enter this race.

251 posted on 03/26/2007 9:07:54 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: Nonstatist

Right now I am on a thread where I dissent from the notion that Nazi genocide is the same as abortion. No one agrees with me. Either I or the others in the thread are in the asylum.


252 posted on 03/26/2007 9:09:13 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Sunsong

Rudy is a Nazi symp as it were. Read the thread.


253 posted on 03/26/2007 9:10:50 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: Politicalmom
He hits on everything that moves, and uses public money to support/protect/transport his mistresses.

And there you have it. I once had a French client, who opined that he would not trust any politician that did not have a mistress.

254 posted on 03/26/2007 9:13:17 PM PDT by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But he's rarely polled above the low 30's, showing that well over half the party, knowing all about Giuliani, isn't comfortable with him.

This is completely untrue. I'd like to see a poll that shows 70 percent of Republicans are "uncomfortable" with Rudy Giuliani. I could just as easily say that since Fred Thompson gets only 12 percent, 88 percent are uncomfortable with him.

On the one hand, I have been hearing that "once Republicans find out about that scoundrel Giuliani's librul record, why, they'll see he's nuthin' but a LIBRUL." Now you say they know him well enough to be uncomfortable.

Rudy's numbers right now are roughly parallel to the numbers Reagan had a year before the first primary. They are right where he wants them to be.

The polls show him to have very low negatives, much lower than Gingrich and McCain, even with Republicans. That doesn't suggest "uncomfortable" to me, but rather uninvolved a year before the election.

If the thing plays out as it should, the remaining undecideds will split in about the same proportions as the decideds. I think you folks are vastly overestimating the importance of abortion and guns, and underestimating the importance of hard work, perserverance and bulldogged determination, which are Giuliani hallmarks. People like and respect Rudy Giuliani in this party. And they see that he is a self-made winner with tremendous executive capability, who will contrast nicely against Hillary Clinton, who got there via her husband's apron strings. I detect no discomfort at all.

As to Thompson. If some sort of deal were in the works to keep him out, for example the Veep or SCOTUS, and Giuliani wanted to see if there was anything Thompson might want to stay out, who would be the go between? Ed Gillespie, maybe? Just a thought.

255 posted on 03/26/2007 9:13:58 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: veronica

A Rudy/Thompson ticket IMO would be a winning team for the Republican's in the 2008 general election.


256 posted on 03/26/2007 9:14:40 PM PDT by basic101
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To: Torie

They are not the same but at least equally offensive, because abortion targets the most innocent and defenseless of all human life.


257 posted on 03/26/2007 9:17:32 PM PDT by TAdams8591 (Guiliani is a democrat in Republican drag!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
This thread became all about Rudy way before I jumped in.
I now way started the hijacking.

Jeez I was on a thread about the final episode of Rome last nite and some folks tried to make it about abortion.

Thread hijacking tends to be the MO of the single issue zealots.
258 posted on 03/26/2007 9:19:26 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: Torie
Consider the source, of course(s).

I like Fred - but it is, unfortunately, sad to see the worst of the worst here - leading the charge for him.

259 posted on 03/26/2007 9:19:59 PM PDT by Sunsong
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To: TAdams8591

"They are not the same but at least equally offensive, because abortion targets the most innocent and defenseless of all human life."

Exactly the point.


260 posted on 03/26/2007 9:21:37 PM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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