Thompson Takes Bites Out of Giuliani, Romney

NY Sun ^ | March 26, 2007 | RYAN SAGER

[Jet Jaguar]

posted 5:21 pm EDT A D V E R T I S E M E N T A D V E R T I S E M E N T

The latest USA Today/Gallup poll, conducted Friday through Sunday, on the presidential race is out, and it's a humdinger. It's hard to say what the headline even is. Here are a few tries, though:

* Romney's support drops to within the margin of error of not existing (that's 3% support in a poll where the margin of error is 3%).

* Giuliani's support drops 13 percentage points since the last USA Today/ Gallup poll, March 2-4 (that's gotta hurt).

* Fred Thompson (not running, by the way) is now the No. 3 in the GOP field, at 12%.

Read the whole story at NYSunPolitics.com.

[Neu Pragmatist]

No worries for Romney at this point . Thompson and McPain have some issues to work out first. View my posts for my assessment regarding McPain/Thompson.

These polls mean nothing to me when they include un-announced candidates . The source on this poll appears biased and questionable .

[CharlesWayneCT]

That's silly. Although Dean was better on Guns than Rudy is, and may not have supported Abortion as much as Rudy, and he had the same view of gays as Rudy, and he's got a temper like Rudy, and he didn't have 3 wives or marry his cousin like Rudy,


I still think Dean is more liberal than Rudy. Although I'm having trouble naming an issue to prove my point.....

[3D-JOY]

Thanks for that last paragraph...it seems to have been lost in the MSM as they support the incompetents down there now.

[Torie]

Infanticide means killing babies out of the womb, typically. But I know you love using hot button words, however inapproriately, to advance you point of view.

in·fan·ti·cide  (n-fnt-sd)
n.
1. The act of killing an infant.
2. The practice of killing newborn infants.
3. One who kills an infant.

[B Knotts]

Yes. It is an ugly truth to face, but it must be faced.

[CharlesWayneCT]

No, we are not. I'd rather a strong conservative win with 280 votes, than give away half my agenda to win 10 more states we don't need.

But I imagine Fred would do a bit better than that.

[CharlesWayneCT]

You should break your spam down into smaller, focused posts on individual issues, and then post them consecutively.

That way you will have more impact.

[narses]

Deny the humanity. Hide the truth. Nonetheless, children are killed every day.

See http://www.blackgenocide.org/sanger.html

Then defend the killing of children by the Nazis you seem to embrace.

[Torie]

Keep on punching narses.

[CharlesWayneCT]

Your distinction is based on the "reason" for denying personhood.

However, the proximate reason the germans could put 6 million jews to death while the nation sat by and did nothing was that they were able to convince the nation that jews were not people.

And the proximate reason the abortionists coudl put 40 million children to death while the nation say by and did nothing was that they were able to convince the nation that the children were not people.

In one case they weren't people because of their heritage. In the other it was because of their age.

[rintense]

Better yet, how will a Dem ad exposing all those things play in the south???

[rintense]

Correct. You simply can not advance conservatism by becoming more liberal.

[Torie]

Yes, but few would argue in favor of killing a people already on the planet because of who they are, while the state of the fetus, and what legal protections it should have, vis a vis the wishes of the mother, and when, and in what state, is a debate that folks of good conscience on both sides can engage, with certain a priori distinctions made. Perhaps you think those who think some abortions should be legal, have the moral compass that is no different from the Nazi's, but few would agree with that. It just isn't the same.

[George W. Bush]

Thompson is considerably fatter and balder now than he was a few years ago.

And McStain's and Rudi's hairlines have improved? Fred's hairline profile has been the same for 15 years. The public is fine with it. And I think Thompson is a little thinner now than he was a couple years back.

And, he's been making a living lately faking emotion and playing make believe. This is better than working in the Senate on issues relating to national defense, taxes, etc?

Electorally, yes it is.

Being in the Senate is the kiss of death in running for prez. Always has been. Too many speeches, too much ammo, too many opportunities to offend your own supporters with speeches and votes, etc. Thompson is better off outside the Senate than Hitlery or McStain or Obama are inside of it. Also an advantage for Giuliani and Romney as it is for Fred.

[Blackirish]

Your right maybe it's better to stick with the current policy the of Repubs. Punt on tax reform, tort reform, entitlement reform...spend money like you hate the stuff....suck up to K Street....earmark like there is no tomorrow.

Or you could actually get something done like Rudy..cut taxes ..cut spending...kick ass like he did in NYCITY.

But I guess you disagree with a fiscal liberal like Kudlow /sarc

[CharlesWayneCT]

You must be a good golfer. My guess is that Tiger would beat me by more strokes than he would use doing so.

Seriously. Giuliani has 4 years running for President. He's "helped" hundreds of republicans, all of whom now owe him favors (except those who lost of course, enough that we lost the house AND senate). He has 100% name recognition, and is labelled the front-runner by the media in every story about him.

But he's rarely polled above the low 30's, showing that well over half the party, knowing all about Giuliani, isn't comfortable with him.

The fear has been that Rudy would win by default, as the other candidates would split the "not Rudy" vote and drop off one by one, leaving Rudy holding the cards.

Thompson changes the equation. With no exploratory committee, and therefore no expenditures, he's polling double-digits, something Romney has not been able to accomplish.

[Neu Pragmatist]

It might be more like McPain /Thompson if they are as close as some say they are.

[FredHunter08]

"I still think Dean is more liberal than Rudy. Although I'm having trouble naming an issue to prove my point....."

I'm sure Dean was more liberal on the ferret issue - banning them was apparently very important to Rudy. ;) Only Rudy-approved pets were allowed in NYC, apparently. Keeping anything off the list as a pet meant you were mentally ill.