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ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS LOCAL
Real Clear Politics ^ | March 25, 2007 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 03/26/2007 8:30:46 AM PDT by mborman

The city government of Hazleton, Pa., got in trouble when it passed a law intended to drive out illegal immigrants. The American Civil Liberties Union sued to overturn the ordinance, arguing that it is the proper task of the federal government, not municipalities, to enforce immigration laws. But when good remedies are absent, it's no surprise to see bad ones emerge.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclu; aliens; giuliani; hazelton; hazleton; illegalimmigrants; immigration
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Mayor Lou Barletta said he was compelled to act when a resident was shot to death, allegedly by two illegal immigrants.

(The mayor testified that the budget for teaching English as a second language has risen from $500 to $1.15 million.)

The author makes a weak attempt to dress up the illegal immigrant debacle.

Calling President Bush! Your nation needs you!

1 posted on 03/26/2007 8:30:48 AM PDT by mborman
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-stevechapman,1,6042355.columnist?coll=chi-navrailn&ctrack=1&cset=true


2 posted on 03/26/2007 8:33:22 AM PDT by mborman (No Rudys, please!)
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To: mborman
Since our Federal Government refuses to enforce immigration laws, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION should be local. That way when an area decides to become a sanctuary city it can deal with the social and economic problems itself. If an area chooses to enforce the immigration laws that area should reap the benefits.
3 posted on 03/26/2007 8:39:01 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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To: mborman

I am sick to death of hearing stuff like, "The critics of this ordinance are right to note that it's the federal government that should enforce immigration laws," and that only the federal government can enforce the law. The federal government forces state and local governments to enforce federal law all the time. For instance, you've built a house and need a permit from the city to occupy that house. You cannot get that permit unless the toilets in that house meet the federal requirement for water consumption. The city, in other words, is enforcing the federal law. You never hear any complaints about local police enforcing the federal law against bank robbery. There are hundreds of other examples of this. We need to quit buying into this argument.


4 posted on 03/26/2007 8:40:28 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: mborman

http://www.standardspeaker.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4745&Itemid=2&PHPSESSID=073b6f9741dbeeb3a8757ef5b8e46879

City man stabbed during run-in with group of teens

Hazelton


5 posted on 03/26/2007 8:41:28 AM PDT by sheana
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To: sheana

Fascinating story. Looks like the mob rules.


The not so "hidden" cost of illegal immigration.


6 posted on 03/26/2007 8:45:32 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: headstamp

They do the same thing here. Sis in law lives right behind the local 90% hispanic high school. When the 'kids' get out of school and are walking home they will not move out of the street. They will walk 12 at a time shoulder to shoulder down the street. Sis in law has had to actually stop in the middle of the road and wait til the horde splits to go around them. As the 'kids' pass the whiteys in the truck they sneer and make disparaging remarks.
That is why I found this story fascinating.


7 posted on 03/26/2007 8:50:13 AM PDT by sheana
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To: mborman

When the cowardly feds no longer have the cajones to defend the the nation, its up to the citizens to defend themselves. No one enters MY house without an invitation, no one decides what goes on in our community without the consent of the citizens. The ACLU can, as always, GO STUFF THEMSELVES!


8 posted on 03/26/2007 8:51:45 AM PDT by Msgt USMC (Lead, follow, or get the heck outta the way!)
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To: Msgt USMC

Who are people kidding; the feds have taken over. As for the ACLU, are they even legal?


9 posted on 03/26/2007 9:04:01 AM PDT by freekitty
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To: sheana

I saw similar behavior in downtown Redwood City (CA) back in the early 90's. A bunch of hispanic kids wanted to cross the street, and they waited until the light was AGAINST them to take to the crosswalk. The motorists were not amused.


10 posted on 03/26/2007 9:04:42 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: mborman

You'll be overwhelmed at the numbers and our future as citizens of the US if steps aren't taken to prevent this diaster. Please watch the whole thing. You will be educated, quick and simple. The best 13.3 minutes vid in a long time.

If your computer is like mine, the Intro, i.e., first 15-20 seconds, are stop and go. Ignore that. The playing will start continuous when the speaker begins.


It's happened and it's insidious. Look around next time you're in a supermarket. Half the shoppers are talking on their cell phones in some foreign lingo. Like most of these distressing trends we will never live to see how it turns out. The American Indian is the model - they should have never allowed immigration. Some day some nuclear terrorist will level the playing field and the human race will be the dinosaur of this geodesic era.

SEE:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4094926727128068265&q=roy+beck&hl=en


11 posted on 03/26/2007 9:21:21 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: 3AngelaD

Here's the problem through my layman's eyes. I decided to see what I could find on the ACLU's claim that only the feds can enforce the law. Unfortunately I found the following in the 1986 law, which supersedes the 1976 law on which Hazelton relied.




TITLE 8--ALIENS AND NATIONALITY
CHAPTER 12--IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY
SUBCHAPTER II--IMMIGRATION

Part VIII--General Penalty Provisions

Sec. 1324a. Unlawful employment of aliens


2) Preemption
The provisions of this section preempt any State or local law
imposing civil or criminal sanctions (other than through licensing
and similar laws) upon those who employ, or recruit or refer for a
fee for employment, unauthorized aliens.




My unqualified opinion is that it's a near certainty that most of the Hazelton law will be thrown out. It should be rewritten to suspend/revoke LICENSES of businesses that employ illegals because that is the one area that Congress did leave open to the state and local govts. (I think some of that is in there). It doesnt sound like fines will be enforceable.

I have no idea what the federal law issues might be on the housing side. If I had to guess, I'd predict the judge will throw out the housing stuff saying it has a disparate impact on Latinos and therefore violates fair housing laws.


12 posted on 03/26/2007 9:32:09 AM PDT by freespirited (Resentment, redistribution, and re-education. The three Rs of liberalism.)
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Section 1324a does not preempt "licensing or similar laws" which is the path Hazleton chose.

In addition: the US Constitution requires:

Article [IX.] The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article [X.] The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.


13 posted on 03/26/2007 9:53:50 AM PDT by oldbill
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To: mborman
Calling President Bush! Your nation needs you!

On this crucial national security issue, President Bush is stone deaf.

14 posted on 03/26/2007 9:54:17 AM PDT by Prokopton
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To: freespirited

Judge Munley is a Democrat liberal (redundant) who will overturn Hazleton's laws. That was a given from the start.

What is in question is whether Hazleton will have the will and the resources ($$$) to continue the fight at the next level.

You can help answer that question here: http://www.smalltowndefenders.com/public/


15 posted on 03/26/2007 9:58:00 AM PDT by oldbill
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On this crucial national security issue, President Bush is stone deaf.

And that's the tragical pity for our nation!

16 posted on 03/26/2007 10:54:17 AM PDT by mborman (No Rudys, please!)
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To: oldbill
Section 1324a does not preempt "licensing or similar laws" which is the path Hazleton chose.

That's what I just tried to say... that my guess is that the licensing part of the Hazelton law would stand but the fines part wouldnt.

17 posted on 03/26/2007 11:35:13 AM PDT by freespirited (Resentment, redistribution, and re-education. The three Rs of liberalism.)
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To: sheana
They do the same thing here. Sis in law lives right behind the local 90% hispanic high school. When the 'kids' get out of school and are walking home they will not move out of the street. They will walk 12 at a time shoulder to shoulder down the street. Sis in law has had to actually stop in the middle of the road and wait til the horde splits to go around them. As the 'kids' pass the whiteys in the truck they sneer and make disparaging remarks.

Looks like it's time to dust off the snow plow blades and put 'em to good use! Here in northwest Illinois, we have our own fair share of illegals, but I've yet to come upon a horde of 'em walking down the middle of the street. Then again, I don't typically drive in and around hispanic neighborhoods or schools. But I have come across black kids walking down the middle of the street, or crossing the street slowly as I bear down on 'em. When I was their age, I respected the hell out of authority *and* the traffic. LOL! Living in an area with an increasingly growing minority population, mixed with a county (Rock Island) that's nearly a hundred percent liberal Democrat, and you have yourself a community that Jesse HiJackson and Al Sharptongue would feel right at home in. Outside of Cook County, you won't find a more liberal county in Illinois (or the country, for that matter).

Thanks to the socialist, liberal politicos, low income housing is sprouting up all over the area, which breeds crime and the wonderful sounds of low frequency bass tones. Here in Milan, our wonderful liberal Democrat mayor OK'd the building of an apartment complex less than a block from where I live. Four or five years after its completion, one person has been murdered in the parking lot due to a drug deal gone bad (over a year ago), and a child molester arrested for doing the obvious to a child who lives there. I've heard sirens coming from that direction as well, so who knows what else has gone on over there. If that isn't enough, we're treated to wonderful bass frequencies on a daily/nightly basis. BUT, to be fair, the idiot neighbors next door (who are white, BTW) love to play that rap garbage as well. Makes me wanna move to Montana and become the attention of the ATF and FBI. LOL!

18 posted on 03/26/2007 11:36:02 AM PDT by Tarkus2040 (Only a conservative nationalist party can save America!)
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Dang sounds like you live in sis in law's neighborhood......in California. They built apartments on the other side of a church soccer field directly behind their house. The apartments are full of hispanics. Their house has been broken into twice now, once in broad daylight while they were home! They have gangbangers coming over their back fence now and have spent tons of money on security lights. Their place looks like a Walmart parking lot at night.
You people back there don't realize how brazen the illegal and legal hispanics are here. They are untouchable here and they know it.


19 posted on 03/26/2007 11:49:50 AM PDT by sheana
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Holy cow! Well it's not nearly that bad here, sheana. Well, not yet, anyway. For the most part, I'd say the people who live in the "Village Woods" apartment complex are decent people. I live on a cul-de-sac, and there are two rows of houses that block the view of the apartments, thank goodness. This neighborhood (lower-middle class) is forty years old now, and as far as I know, there are very few houses that have ever been broken into. It has always been a pretty safe neighborhood, but who knows for how long it will remain, thanks to the liberal, socialistic ideology of multiculturalism.


20 posted on 03/26/2007 12:59:40 PM PDT by Tarkus2040 (Only a conservative nationalist party can save America!)
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