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To: b_sharp
"Just as an experiment, do the calculations necessary to produce an accurate probability for the gradual incremental change from a simple chemical complex we would define as nonliving to the more complex chemical complex we define as alive and compare that probability to the probability that an all powerful, all knowing, all encompassing being exists. Tell me what you get and show me your work."

Sequential data probability is one area where we have already done the math (and yes, the work is shown). The math alone completely rules out the Theory of Evolution, by the way.

Sequential DNA Probability

47 posted on 03/25/2007 6:34:51 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
"Sequential data probability is one area where we have already done the math (and yes, the work is shown). The math alone completely rules out the Theory of Evolution, by the way."

So, calculating that monkeys could not type a line from Shakespeare rules out the possibility that evolution has taken place?

Sorry SH but all that little exercise in futility shows is that the author has some really bad assumptions about abiogenesis, evolution and the calculation of their probability. If he seriously believes that he has calculated the probability of abiogenesis, or more importantly the probability of a genetic change spreading through a population, he is deluded.

For any argument by analogy to work the analogs have to be demonstrably identical in the essential properties.

In what way is a single monkey typing away anything like the processes involved in abiogenesis and evolution? (Remember, evolution is concerned with populations and changes to existing genomes)

Your claim that this bit of misguided probability rules out the ToE is jumping to a rather large and unwarranted conclusion. All it does prove is that monkeys would have a difficult time typing "TO BE OR NOT TO BE, THAT IS THE QUESTION.".

55 posted on 03/25/2007 8:50:01 PM PDT by b_sharp (evolution is not, generally speaking, a global optimizer, but a general satisficer -J. Wilkins)
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