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Florida: City to Seize Homes Over a $5 Parking Ticket
the newspaper.com ^ | March 22, 2007

Posted on 03/23/2007 8:04:40 PM PDT by Founding Father

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To: suijuris

It isn't too much hassle if the real goal is the property and they have a developer on deck waiting for it.

All depends on what is motivating them.


61 posted on 03/24/2007 6:45:27 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: mysterio
Government power is now past the point of no return.

It may seem so, but in fact, the citizens of that town can do two things. First they can do a petition drive to put a revocation of the law on the next ballot. Second, they can vote out the varmints who came up with the ordinance. Past that, should they fall prey to the law, they can file both state and federal civil rights violations suits. They're not out of ammo yet.

62 posted on 03/24/2007 7:51:44 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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To: Founding Father

Homeowner's Association on Steroids!


63 posted on 03/24/2007 7:52:42 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: Natural Law
...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

How quaint.

Is that from a fairy tale?

64 posted on 03/24/2007 7:57:29 AM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: napscoordinator
They were wrong to park illegally, knew they were, and decided not to pay

Ever received a notice that you're delinquent on a parking ticket that you never knew about? Wind, rain and kids having fun have been known to remove a ticket. Weeks later, you get notice that you haven't paid for a ticket that wasn't there when you get back to your car.

And the potential for abuse is huge. A "meter maid" can write a ticket for a legally parked car and destroy the original. Suddenly, you have to pay $250. to contest a copy of a ticket that was supposedly issued two months ago. No chance to take photos of the car with the ticket and the signs etc.

It's a scam to make money; there's no other reason for draconian measures for unpaid $5. tickets.

65 posted on 03/24/2007 8:05:08 AM PDT by par4 (If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything)
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To: 383rr; Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; Americanwolf; ...
Libertarian ping! To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here.
66 posted on 03/24/2007 8:08:09 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Founding Father
Stole this a long time ago, so I'm gonna' use it:

"The Second Amendment is the 'RESET' button for the Constitution".

If anything calls for a clip-fed solution to a problem, this would well qualify.

I'll resume posting after my hopefully temporary banning.

67 posted on 03/24/2007 8:54:12 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 ("The Second Amendment is the 'RESET' button for the Constitution")
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To: HIDEK6
"How quaint. Is that from a fairy tale?"

I'm afraid that it is becoming increasingly so. The Bill of Rights was added to the Constitution as a way to appease the Anti-Federalists. The dissolution of the Bill of Rignts began in earnest with the Civil War. Although most history books assert that the war was to end slavery or was some esoteric struggle over "States Rights" it was in fact a war to establish the supremacy of Federalism. The south didn't lose the Civil War, the Anti-Federalists did. It isn't surprising that the primacy of the government over the individual is the consequence.

68 posted on 03/24/2007 9:22:20 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: par4

You gave some very valid points. Very True...


69 posted on 03/24/2007 9:22:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator (.)
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To: Natural Law
The dissolution of the Bill of Rights began in earnest with the Civil War.

After nine years here I've finally met a person who understands. Nice to meet you.

70 posted on 03/24/2007 9:30:55 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: par4
Ever received a notice that you're delinquent on a parking ticket that you never knew about?

Sounds like you are describing the latest scam out of New Orleans. They are sending out notices of parking violations that allegedly took place pre-Katrina. $40 if you immediately pay, $120 if you wait around a few weeks, then go to court and add costs, etc. One little problem, people who have never been to New Orleans are getting these notices. Someone has been able to tap in to a license plate database for the info to run the scam.

71 posted on 03/24/2007 9:38:20 AM PDT by Founding Father (The Pedophile moHAMmudd (PBUH---Pigblood be upon him))
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To: Founding Father
Well, "Founding Father" and "Natural Law" are synonymous. You really have to filter through a lot of the "Party uber alles" Bush-bots and "Shrill Savage (isn't that redundant) Robots" to find the few who really understand. Glad to make your acquaintance.
72 posted on 03/24/2007 9:50:22 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: tenthirteen
So, if you get a parking ticket for something you did illegally, you don't want to pay?

Its not a matter of whether a ticket should be issued. Its a matter of an unfair, excessive fine.

You read the constitution lately?

Amendment VIII

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

73 posted on 03/24/2007 9:58:40 AM PDT by Fan of Fiat
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To: BushMeister

No good deed goes unpunished.


74 posted on 03/24/2007 10:17:15 AM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: mysterio

Pay the 5 bucks.


75 posted on 03/24/2007 10:18:40 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: goldstategop

We've allowed the government to steal property without due process from those merely accused of using drugs. This is the predictable result -- government power always expands to find new targets.


76 posted on 03/24/2007 11:17:12 AM PDT by ellery (The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedience, and by parts. - Edmund Burke)
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To: AdamSelene235

Excellant reply.


77 posted on 03/24/2007 11:25:15 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: AdamSelene235

Excellant reply.


78 posted on 03/24/2007 11:25:18 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: DownInFlames

You support seizing cars and houses over a $5 debt?


79 posted on 03/24/2007 1:06:37 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: TN4Liberty; tenthirteen
If you believe that taking a man's $500,000 home after he is 90 days late paying a $20 ticket is just and fair, you are insane.

If you want to appeal, you have to pay $250 just for the option, and a city employee decides if your appeal is valid?

This whole thing is a racket.

I couldn't agree more. Just one more example of the fact that no one really owns their real estate anymore. All that you worked to earn can be taken away at the whim of a sniveling bureaucrat. This is beyond a racket, but I don't have the words to express my contempt for this scheme... or for the attitude that it's just "one more cost of doing business."

80 posted on 03/24/2007 3:01:17 PM PDT by pbmaltzman
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