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UFOs flew over Phoenix in '97, Symington says
ARIZONA DAILY STAR ^ | 3/23/07 | Tom Beal

Posted on 03/23/2007 7:05:34 PM PDT by Pro-Bush

The Arizona Daily Star Published: 03.23.2007

UFOs flew over Phoenix in '97, Symington says By Tom Beal ARIZONA DAILY STAR

"The universe is a big place, and we're conceited to think we're alone." Fife Symington, former Ariz. governor Former Gov. Fife Symington says now that those strange lights that appeared over Phoenix a decade ago were from another world and that he had a close encounter with an alien craft on March 13, 1997.

"I'm a pilot and I know just about every machine that flies. It was bigger than anything that I've ever seen. It remains a great mystery. Other people saw it, responsible people," Symington said Thursday. "I don't know why people would ridicule it."

Symington, who was in his second term as governor of Arizona during the Phoenix Lights incident, recently told a UFO investigator making a documentary that he had kept quiet about his personal close encounter because he didn't want to panic the populace. He repeated his story Thursday on CNN, saying the craft he saw was "enormous. It just felt other-worldly. In your gut, you could just tell it was other-worldly."

(Excerpt) Read more at azstarnet.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; pheonix; tinfoilalert; ufo
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To: Mr. Mojo

louis faracon sometimes lives in phx, maybe it was the mothership


141 posted on 03/23/2007 11:35:12 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Quix

Not in this lifetime. There is no reasoning with you. Adios.


142 posted on 03/23/2007 11:36:21 PM PDT by CountryBumpkin (Don't get dropped into the liberal thunk tank. Use the brain God gave you.)
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To: Quix

i'm a native tempean, didn't see the lights, but, the goldwater range is south of the mountains along interstate 8 i believe, those flares, unless really high up, would not be able to be seen that far away 50+ miles, due to south mountain and the estrella range


143 posted on 03/23/2007 11:40:08 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

There are lots of facts, some not so well known, that the naysayers either have no clue about or a mind insufficiently open to treat facts as facts.

All such will be moot a lot sooner than I'd prefer. But until then, we have to put up with ignorance gone to seed pretending to be erudite and informed; logical and above us kooks.

Should be interesting to see a lot of 'know-it-all' jaws hitting the floor.


144 posted on 03/23/2007 11:43:12 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: machogirl

Actually, they would. The flare drops are from a really high elevation, and the elevation of South Mountain (approx 2500 feet) would not be that high on the horizon, but high enough to occult the flares as they fell behind the line of sight.

I've driven past the Goldwater Range when they did a flare drop, those flares are high and bright, we saw them coming up from Rocky Point for at least 50 miles.


145 posted on 03/23/2007 11:48:25 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: Quix

Funny, UFO researchers said in the 70's that disclosure was very soon, then they said that in the 80's, they were sure of that in the 90's and are again sure of it.

All the while, they have plenty of books and seminars for you do discover more, just show them the $$$.

And yet, no new info, just more hucksterism.


146 posted on 03/23/2007 11:50:17 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

i agree with that,if you were sufficiently far enough away from south mountain and the estrella range, but for the people that saw these "flares" right above them and were close enough to the north sides of the mountain ranges, unless those flares were dropped at cruising altitude and exceptionally bright, (the lights i see off of planes which i deem to be close to casa grande,i live in s. chandler), are not exceptionally bright. plane lights that i believe are 50 miles away and at cruising altitude, these are really faint...

again, know the terrain, saw the pathway, don't know what to think


147 posted on 03/23/2007 11:55:05 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: Central Scrutiniser

my ex-husband is an "alien", no one believes me :)


148 posted on 03/23/2007 11:56:27 PM PDT by machogirl
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To: CountryBumpkin

"Have you ever met my very good friend, Brie?"

No, I have a friend,...and her name is Velveeta. ;-)


149 posted on 03/23/2007 11:57:25 PM PDT by incredulous joe ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." -- Groucho Marx)
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To: Pro-Bush

Klaatu barada nikto


150 posted on 03/24/2007 12:00:27 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: Gator113
Gort!!
151 posted on 03/24/2007 12:05:26 AM PDT by Pro-Bush (hater)
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To: CountryBumpkin

Well, I've been running telescopes in E. Phoenix since 1978 and I am amazed at how bad the skies are here.

Anyone can see two or more planes and remark how they can't see stars. Well the light pollution is such, you couldn't see the stars anyway.


152 posted on 03/24/2007 12:05:32 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: Gator113

is that vulcan?

http://home.teleport.com/~vli/vlif.htm

vulcan language institute


153 posted on 03/24/2007 12:07:45 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Pro-Bush

Ish-veh ni komihn


154 posted on 03/24/2007 12:09:58 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: machogirl

Remember, an airliner is not gonna have its landing lights on at any point south of you. Sky Harbor is perpendicular to a viewing point in Chandler. The jet path from flights coming N. into Phoenix (from Tucson, Cabo, Hermisillo, Guaymas, Puerto Vallarta, Acapulco and ZIH (only a few a week) goes up to just S. of Chandler and turns at a right angle W or E to come in for landing. The landing lights aren't turned on usually until that turn, and with the exeption of TUS flights, they all come into PHX before, or just after sundown.

I have seen the flares up close, close enough to see the parachutes they are on, they are bright, bright enough to illuminate the ground beneath them, they can easily be seen from many miles away.


155 posted on 03/24/2007 12:13:21 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Speaking of Plan 9 from Outer Space, Here's a link to the video.

Enjoy

156 posted on 03/24/2007 12:14:09 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

hummmmmmmmmm food, for thought


157 posted on 03/24/2007 12:17:21 AM PDT by machogirl
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To: Central Scrutiniser; Rokke; Quix
"But, the deal is this: ever since 1947 there have been accounts, but zero proof."

My exact thought, too.

I have been a pilot and also spent many hours watching the night sky, and in my 62 years have never seen a UFO.
When one crash lands in a populated area I will be convinced.
The Kook to Kook types are just that...KOOKS, haha
Beam me up Art....
158 posted on 03/24/2007 12:25:42 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Central Scrutiniser

"Remember, an airliner is not gonna have its landing lights on at any point south of you"

I don't know about Phoenix, but as you know, in most large terminal areas, aircraft have their landing lights on as much as 40 miles out.

I do have one funny UFO story...My last US residence was in a small country town, 50 miles east of Memphis.
One local resident was convinced that UFOs were close to town and he had been observing them for the last 5 nights.
They were taking off every night, just after dark, from a grove of trees at the end of a large field.
The local town cop and myself went out to observe this strange phenomena.
Sure enough, as soon as it was dark, the orbs came rising out of the far away trees.
Well, I laughed as I knew they were the landing lights of departing aircraft from MEM International, 50 miles away.


159 posted on 03/24/2007 12:37:29 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Well, coming N to Phoenix, even with landing lights the green and red wing lights would be lit.

Those never were reported.


160 posted on 03/24/2007 1:09:34 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Never Let a Fundie Near a Textbook. Teach Evolution!)
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