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Latino Leaders' Silence Is Killing Blacks
Los Angeles Times ^ | March 21, '07 | Kermin Maddox

Posted on 03/23/2007 6:58:49 PM PDT by T.L.Sink

I will say publicly what many people are whispering privately in barbershops, soul food restaurants, and church parking lots in South Los Angeles. If relations don't improve between African Americans and Latinos in Southern California, we are headed for a major racial conflict. And the notion that Latinos are killing blacks to "ethnically cleanse" their neighborhoods is extremely troubling.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; balkanization; crimaliens; gangs; illegalimmigration; immigration
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I grew up in Cali, and blacks and latinos have never got along...this is nothing new.


42 posted on 03/23/2007 9:21:42 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: dpa5923

That's a good observation. I don't think Clemenza has revealed anything new when she tells us that blacks have always had a higher criminal rate than whites. But that's hardly the point of the post. The point is that a huge influx of foreign illegal aliens who speak no English, have no desire to be assimilated into our culture, many of whom have criminal value systems, who are agents of the drug cartel, are exacerbating all our social and economic problems. Blacks, despite their many historic problems, are AMERICANS. Do we want to add to our social chaos by allowing a Third World invasion of foreign aliens which clearly makes an inflammatory and exploisive situation even worse?


43 posted on 03/23/2007 9:22:48 PM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: ckilmer

thanks.

weren't you the one that pinged me with that several-year-old ms 13 thread?

that's a good thread that will bring folks up to speed, fast on this issue.


44 posted on 03/23/2007 9:23:27 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: Jack Black

CWII ping?

This is an interesting angle.


45 posted on 03/23/2007 9:26:11 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ckilmer
Deport all illegals. Put those who have committed violent crimes away FOR GOOD. Do the latter to US citizens who do same as well.

And while were at it, stop giving away section 8, junk food, and child support (not the now abolished FDIC, but all other forms).

As far as the underclass (whether their names be Maria, Shaniqua, or Tammy) having feral babies, certain court decisions prevent what I think would be a good solution to that problem. You can't force somebody to have an IUD implanted, although it would save us ALOT in welfare, education, and incarceration charges.

I know it sounds cruel, but I am sick of supporting both our native born underclass, as well as the masses of poor coming over our border.

46 posted on 03/23/2007 9:26:40 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: T.L.Sink

I consider it an Americans vs. illegal immigrant problem. The Americans in this case happen to be black, so now it's a problem for the race pimps.


47 posted on 03/23/2007 9:28:52 PM PDT by Doohickey (Rudolph Giuliani: metro-American)
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To: T.L.Sink
I suspect that if these hate crimes were being committed by the KKK against Latinos or African Americans, both communities would come together and condemn the violence as racist. Why not now?

Because only whites can be racist.

48 posted on 03/23/2007 9:29:10 PM PDT by Razz Barry (,i)
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To: Clemenza

my point of view is:

you're dead, no matter what color the skin of a person that killed you. violence is violence in my view.

but i did have the feeling reading all of the l.a. times article in print the other day and here on the internet, that the times is on the black side.

don't forget that drugs are a major part of this. the latino gangs are bringing drugs into the country and distributing them.


49 posted on 03/23/2007 9:31:27 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: ken21

Drugs, like the poor, will always be with us. I say this as one who's mother's people flooded the nation with Heroin after WWII.


50 posted on 03/23/2007 9:33:21 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: T.L.Sink
According to the Census figures, in 1990 there were 2.4 million Mexican-born residents of California. In 2000 the figure was 3.9 million Mexican-born residents. The foreign born population of California in 2000 was 8.8 million [out of a total population of 33.8 million], which means one out of every four residents of California is foreign born.

In 2000, there were 11 million Hispanics/Latinos in California or one in every three residents. There were 2.2 million African-Americans.

In 2000 LA had a population of 3.7 million, with 1.8 million being Hispanic/Latino of any race. There were 369 thousand African Americans. 1.5 million residents of LA are foreign-born or about 40% of the population. And 2 million speak a language other than English at home.

Is LA an American city?

51 posted on 03/23/2007 9:34:09 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Hilltop
Yes, we agree!

Close the borders, George. It is your sworn duty to protect our borders. It is insanity to think that the president couldn't seal the borders within 7 days.

I believe it had already reached the point long ago that using military forces on the border could no longer and can no longer be a violation of any laws whatsoever. We need active duty ground troops all the way across the US-Mexican border.

And we need to stop allowing any south-o'-the-border presidents (Mexican, Central American, South American) to influence our policy making on border security. It makes me literally ill to read where some S.A. leader is complaining about stopping illegal crossing of the border.
52 posted on 03/23/2007 9:34:27 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: ken21

yes


53 posted on 03/23/2007 9:34:45 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: kabar

Nope. Neither is New York. :)


54 posted on 03/23/2007 9:34:46 PM PDT by Clemenza (NO to Rudy in 2008! New York's Values are NOT America's Values! RUN FRED RUN!)
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To: Hilltop
"Black Americans are the 'underclass'?

They have fought bravely in the armed conflicts of this nation, endured bigotry, started businesses, and have begun to assimilate, in spite of obstacles, into the American dream."

I agree completely. Blacks don't belong to an underclass anymore than all whites belong to the KKK or all Hispanics belong to street gangs. I grew up around a lot of trashy whites. They chose their lives the same way any other people do.
55 posted on 03/23/2007 9:36:36 PM PDT by Brucifer (JF'n Kerry- "That's not just a paper cut, it's a Purple Heart!")
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To: Doohickey

so now it's a problem for the race pimps.
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the race pimps don't do latin politics.


56 posted on 03/23/2007 9:37:47 PM PDT by ckilmer
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To: Clemenza

New York is more American than LA, but not by much. Only 3.5 million out of a population of 8 million speak a language other than English at home. The Latino/Hispanic population is 2.2 million.


57 posted on 03/23/2007 9:39:34 PM PDT by kabar
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To: T.L.Sink
Three Los Angeles members of a Latino gang known as the Avenues were convicted and sentenced to life in prison in November for hate crime violations, including killing African Americans in an effort to run them out of predominantly Latino neighborhoods.

Clearly, African Americans are committing violent crimes against Latinos as well, but there is little evidence that those crimes are based on race as much as they are for control of turf. And the notion that Latinos are killing blacks in an effort to "ethnically cleanse" their neighborhoods is extremely troubling.

So blacks killing hispanics for land is just turf fighting but hispanics killing blacks for land is ethnic cleansing?! We may have just found the a winner for the most hypocritical statement of the year!!!

58 posted on 03/23/2007 9:41:40 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: T.L.Sink
"According to The Times, police statistics show that from 1994 to 2005, there were nearly five times as many homicides, assaults and other violent crimes committed by Latinos against African Americans in Harbor Gateway as by African Americans against Latinos.

One example of how out of control race relations have been in Harbor Gateway is the case of the 19-year-old African American man with no known gang affiliation who was killed by a Latino member of the 204th Street gang because the gang member was upset that an African American had defeated a Latino in a boxing match.

Three Los Angeles members of a Latino gang known as the Avenues were convicted and sentenced to life in prison in November for hate crime violations, including killing African Americans in an effort to run them out of predominantly Latino neighborhoods.

This escalating violence between Latinos and African Americans defies logic in so many ways. The two racial groups have had many similar struggles in Southern California and have coalesced around issues such as affirmative action, livable wages, justice for janitors and police misconduct.

Clearly, African Americans are committing violent crimes against Latinos as well, but there is little evidence that those crimes are based on race as much as they are for control of turf. And the notion that Latinos are killing blacks in an effort to "ethnically cleanse" their neighborhoods is extremely troubling. Many African Americans are especially perplexed because they remember that when we had the numerical advantage, African Americans did not target Latinos for murder to rid them from our neighborhoods. It would have been unthinkable. "

Those Crips and Bloods better get together with the remaining willing white community in a matter of common defense. I told people 2 years ago that this will be the end result. Baghdad had a carnival with rides for kids yesterday. L.A. is a war zone today. A Sheriff's deputy told me there are places in L.A. that require an APC with a 20mm machine gun to patrol around.

If you want to watch a train wreck in progress, just watch this one evolve in real time for your pleasure.

59 posted on 03/23/2007 9:46:43 PM PDT by BobS
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To: BobS

and folks wonder why we can't control iraq?

we can't control our own country!


60 posted on 03/23/2007 9:48:40 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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