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The maturing of the right
Dallas Morning News ^ | 3-23-07 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 03/23/2007 2:00:52 PM PDT by veronica

Conservative Evangelical Christian voters have come a long way in a short time. From their nearly unanimous condemnation of Bill Clinton for his extramarital affairs, a growing number of these "pro-family" voters appear ready to accept several Republican presidential candidates who do not share their ideal of marriage and faith.

Among those seriously under consideration by these church-going folks is former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who has been married three times and who had an affair with the woman now his wife when he was married to wife number two. The second wife, Donna Hanover, once recorded a political commercial for Giuliani, touting his virtues as a husband. She called him "honest and very kind" and "this is the kind of man I wanted to be the father of my children" and "Rudy is such a great Dad." It's on YouTube. In recent days we've learned from his son Andrew that he and his father are estranged, but that they're working on it. Andrew says he got his values from his mother.

Another of the thrice married is former House Speaker Newt Gingrich who, last week, trod the Damascus Road to Colorado Springs. On the syndicated radio program of psychologist James Dobson, Gingrich confessed that he had an extramarital affair with the woman to whom he is now married while he was married to his second wife. Gingrich acknowledged not living up to his own standards, or God's.

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1 posted on 03/23/2007 2:00:53 PM PDT by veronica
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More - "While "character issues" can overlap with other concerns when considering for whom to vote, conservative evangelicals are beginning to see them as less important than who can meet the multiple challenges faced by the nation. Put it this way: if you are about to have major surgery and your only choice was a church-going doctor with a high mortality rate, or an agnostic with a high success record, which would it be? I'd choose the agnostic."


2 posted on 03/23/2007 2:02:14 PM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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More - "While "character issues" can overlap with other concerns when considering for whom to vote, conservative evangelicals are beginning to see them as less important than who can meet the multiple challenges faced by the nation. Put it this way: if you are about to have major surgery and your only choice was a church-going doctor with a high mortality rate, or an agnostic with a high success record, which would it be? I'd choose the agnostic."


3 posted on 03/23/2007 2:02:20 PM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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More - "While "character issues" can overlap with other concerns when considering for whom to vote, conservative evangelicals are beginning to see them as less important than who can meet the multiple challenges faced by the nation. Put it this way: if you are about to have major surgery and your only choice was a church-going doctor with a high mortality rate, or an agnostic with a high success record, which would it be? I'd choose the agnostic."


4 posted on 03/23/2007 2:02:26 PM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: veronica
The MSM is trying to foist Rudy or Mitt on us the same way they foisted Bob Dull on us in '96.
5 posted on 03/23/2007 2:02:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Sorry for the triple post. Don't know how that happened!


6 posted on 03/23/2007 2:03:34 PM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: veronica; MeekOneGOP
Dallas Morning News

Does the Dallas Morning News still run announcements of "gay marriages"?

7 posted on 03/23/2007 2:03:42 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: veronica
Pssst....

Fred Dalton Thompson.

Pass it on.

8 posted on 03/23/2007 2:04:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Cal Thomas is one of the preeminent Conservative writers/thinkers. He's hardly a member of the liberal MSM.
9 posted on 03/23/2007 2:04:49 PM PDT by veronica ('My 80% ally is not my 20% enemy.' ........Rudy reminds us what Ronald Reagan said.)
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To: veronica
There are always ho's who will sell themself for whatever scraps they can get.

Principled conservatives will not support Rudy McRomney.

10 posted on 03/23/2007 2:04:54 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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To: veronica
Cal Thomas is one of the preeminent Conservative writers/thinkers. He's hardly a member of the liberal MSM.

Fortunately he doesn't speak for me either.
11 posted on 03/23/2007 2:05:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: veronica

If there is a choice between a liberal scumbag and a conservative scumbag, I will vote for the conservative scumbag every time.

So far, we pretty much have all liberal scumbags in the race.


12 posted on 03/23/2007 2:06:32 PM PDT by RatRipper
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To: veronica

Cal Thomas can't make up his mind what he thinks these days. Toss him back in that soup kitchen and don't let him out again.


13 posted on 03/23/2007 2:08:23 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: veronica

Is it maturing when one accepts that "Until death do us part" really meant, "Until divorce do us part" on something that is perhaps the second most important vow (with accepting Christ as the first)?

I would suggest it shows people have grown to realize the quality of people wanting to run the country has dramatically decreased over time and they are trying to make do with the best of the worst.


14 posted on 03/23/2007 2:12:07 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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Put it this way: if you are about to have major surgery and your only choice was a church-going doctor with a high mortality rate, or an agnostic with a high success record, which would it be? I'd choose the agnostic.

Uh-oh. Cal's in BIG trouble with the Puritans around here.

Treasonous Liberal Ping!!

15 posted on 03/23/2007 2:15:45 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: veronica

With all due respect to Cal, it is giving far too much credit to Clinton to refer to his extramarital shenanigans as "affairs." The term is actually short for "love affair," and it is pretty difficult to use that term for Bill's relationship with Monica.

Clinton's relationships with women were invariably short and intensely exploitative. Had he been a conservative Republican the feminists would have given birth to an entire herd of cows over this issue, but since he was a Democrat he got a pass.

I don't approve of Giulani's or Newt's behavior, but each married the woman he had a (real) love affair with and neither appears to be a serial exploiter of less powerful women.


16 posted on 03/23/2007 2:28:47 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (I didn't claw my way to the top of the food chain to be a vegetarian.)
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To: veronica
Put it this way: if you are about to have major surgery and your only choice was a church-going doctor with a high mortality rate, or an agnostic with a high success record, which would it be? I'd choose the agnostic.

This election has zero to do with whether the candidate is a clean cut male over six feet tall with a pretty wife, 2.5 kids and dog or what church they claim to belong to. We want a Conservative. We don't want a faux Christian like Jimmy Carter, we don't want a Socialist snake oil salesman like Clinton, and we are sick to damn death of W and his "compassionate conservatism." We refuse to be spoon-fed the lunatic McCain, the pretty boy Romney, or the Rockefeller Republican Rudy.

17 posted on 03/23/2007 2:34:56 PM PDT by Quick or Dead (Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms - Aristotle)
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To: veronica
>More - ... More - ... More -


    The mouse is your friend!
    If you handle it gently
    it will not bite you . . .
18 posted on 03/23/2007 2:38:00 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: veronica
Put it this way: if you are about to have major surgery and your only choice was a church-going doctor with a high mortality rate, or an agnostic with a high success record, which would it be?

I can't imagine what your point is. Did Rudy respond well to managing on 9/11? Not really. Against everyone's advice, he had put his command bunker in the WTC!

I don't get what you imagine Rudy is going to save you from. Or why you think he can do it.
19 posted on 03/23/2007 2:43:22 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: veronica
Cal Thomas is one of the preeminent Conservative writers/thinkers.

I'd say he writes very well on certain issues. This isn't one of them.
20 posted on 03/23/2007 2:45:27 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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