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To: veronica; Corin Stormhands

Well, 59 posts in and I haven't read anybody posting who agreed with any of the subjective statements made by the Nation. So I think the claim that there are fans of the Nation are wrong.

In fact, I'm about the only one posting who seems to have picked any statements out of the article and claimed they were bothersome to me. And that was not about what the article said about it, but about the actual event.


76 posted on 03/23/2007 8:09:16 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
At a press conference Giuliani argued that the dead man's conduct at age 13 was "highly relevant." Dorismond, he sneered, was "no altar boy." But Dorismond had actually been an altar boy. He had even attended the same elite Catholic high school as the Mayor -- Bishop Loughlin in Brooklyn.

This may very well have been the low point of the Giuliani administration. Even Giuliani fans would have to admit that it doesn't get any better than this. LOL.

79 posted on 03/23/2007 8:12:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Well, 59 posts in and I haven't read anybody posting who agreed with any of the subjective statements made by the Nation. So I think the claim that there are fans of the Nation are wrong....In fact, I'm about the only one posting who seems to have picked any statements out of the article and claimed they were bothersome to me. And that was not about what the article said about it, but about the actual event.

They make the liberal ante-Rudy case well, and essentially the article seems accurate.

They don't really touch on the "conservative" anti-Rudy case. His sex life, immigration, his wife(ves), gun control, his cancer, gay marriage, his charity and Sat. Night Live appearances, et al.

For a candidate promoted as a terror warrior based on his policing experience, I'd say his push it to and over the line tactics is his greatest defect.

He controlled "crime" by creating new criminals, then confiscating their guns. Freepers don't like that one. Along with his clear attempt to bypass the legislative process with the manufacturers suit.

His aggressive "stop and frisk" tactics were unconstitutional, but I'm not sure that's a big issue here.

They resulted in several deaths, my experience those of us who consider that an issue are in the minority.

His relations with the minority community, that's not an issue.

I'm not surprised you're not seeing the facts of the article challenged, they're not really negatives from a conservative perspective.

92 posted on 03/23/2007 8:56:48 AM PDT by SJackson (are you aware of...any listening devices in the Oval Office of the President?, Fred Thompson)
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