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To: Non-Sequitur
"As for the 18 year old fresh out of boot camp, he's an E-2 making around $18,000 per year with his food, housing, and medical taken care of. What entry level civilian job is going to do better than that?"

That was the poop that the Air Force fed me when I was a young E-2. At that time - 1992 - I was making about $11,000 per year. I can tell you that I would have happily given up the barracks and the chow hall (excuse me, dining facility) for an extra $10k per year.

By the time I was an E-4 I was making a whole $14k per year. My "pay visibility statement" told me I was making $29k. Pffffftttt!

27 posted on 03/22/2007 6:16:43 AM PDT by T.Smith
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To: T.Smith

I was an E-3 in '82, started saving $250 a month at the time; took home about $650...all about priorities...


30 posted on 03/22/2007 6:49:05 AM PDT by dakine
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To: T.Smith
At that time - 1992 - I was making about $11,000 per year. I can tell you that I would have happily given up the barracks and the chow hall (excuse me, dining facility) for an extra $10k per year.

Then get a job that pays you to do that.

33 posted on 03/22/2007 6:58:07 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Save Fredericksburg. Support CVBT.)
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To: T.Smith

I agree, the AF dorms are hardly worth the full amount of BAH that is withheld, and as I understood it, we supposedly had the best of the branches? The room I had was smaller than the $300 (incl. utilites) studio joints just off base. The chow hall was a decent deal, except that nobody really likes to eat at the same restaurant all the time. Yes, I ate there a bit once I got my BAS, because it was good for the price, even with the surcharge, but I do recall getting quite sick of it as an Airman, when I basically had no choice, unless I wanted to waste my BAS.

On the other hand, you did make more thank 14k as an E-4, because you really should count the tax savings from your BAH/BAS not being taxed, the value of the vacation you got over and above what you would be able to get as a civilian (about two weeks at best most places, three weeks at a few), and your savings in insurance premiums and co-pays, although you might be right to subract a little back for quality of care.

29k is clearly a bit of an over-statement, but to be fair 14k is a bit of an understatement.


89 posted on 09/25/2007 6:56:25 AM PDT by martyjlewis (Pfffftttt! (Sort of))
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