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Studies show that immigrants come here for jobs. A recent study by the Texas comptroller argued that the taxes paid by undocumented immigrants more than cover the state services they use.

What about private medical providers, Mr. Wailoo? Are they paid for the the services rendered to illegal aliens?

1 posted on 03/21/2007 9:20:14 PM PDT by Huntress
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To: Huntress

An 'undocumented immigrant' is an 'illegal alien that is breaking out law.


2 posted on 03/21/2007 9:26:23 PM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Huntress

I never take seriously any claims people make without backing them up. This guy uses the "studies show" line of BS, without saying which studies and from where.


3 posted on 03/21/2007 9:28:44 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Huntress
Studies show that immigrants come here for jobs. A recent study by the Texas comptroller argued that the taxes paid by undocumented immigrants more than cover the state services they use...sophistry - many might come for jobs, but those who do still soak up plenty of free medical care - and those who do pay taxes may pay enough to cover the cost of services they receive - but did the comptroller bother to look at how many never paid taxes......
4 posted on 03/21/2007 9:31:20 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Huntress

Is this guy on the same planet as the rest of us?


5 posted on 03/21/2007 9:31:53 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Huntress

Is this guy on the same planet as the rest of us?


6 posted on 03/21/2007 9:32:17 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: Huntress
Federal statistics:

Estimated first-year cost of a heart transplant, $391,000.

I wonder what the first-year cost goes up to when a lung transplant is added.
10 posted on 03/21/2007 9:42:45 PM PDT by ruination
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How many children does the typical illegal have in school?

Just one family with three kids is receiving nearly $30,000 in state services every year they are in school. How many working illegals without children does it take to pay that back in taxes?

I do not believe that they pay anywhere near what they cost us in just education expenses. Now add medical care, law enforcement, court time and prison time and is way over the top.


11 posted on 03/21/2007 9:45:48 PM PDT by DB
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Pay their own way? How about that illegal with the 3 or 4 kids in the public schools at $10-12000 a pop here in Portland. Ain't no way they pay their way overall. What about the extensive use of OHSU for the birth of their children?

Nam Vet

14 posted on 03/21/2007 10:59:50 PM PDT by Nam Vet ( The original point and click interface was a Smith & Wesson.)
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That is BS. My husband makes way more money than an illegal, the taxes he pays could not cover the cost of childbirth and healthcare for our entire family. And why are hospitals closing at such a rapid rate? Cause the illegals don't pay.


15 posted on 03/22/2007 4:06:32 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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Gee, wonder who's SS# is being used to pay those taxes? What form of ID is the mother using to get her health insurance and a job?


Where's the GD Barf Alert?


16 posted on 03/22/2007 4:46:26 AM PDT by wolfcreek (Semi-Conservatism Won't Cut It)
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#3 may be the only one that makes sense but he is only guessing?


17 posted on 03/22/2007 11:00:58 AM PDT by art_rocks
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Transplant patient, illegal alien, dies. Unfortunate.

She could have been one of these transplant patients who died because of a disease dragged over the border by one of her countrymen.


Rare Disease Reported in Transplants
Jul 27 2:16 PM US/Eastern
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By MIKE STOBBE
AP Medical Writer

ATLANTA

Two U.S. heart transplant patients who died earlier this year had
contracted a parasitic tropical disease from their new organs, health
officials reported Thursday.

The two California men are the fourth and fifth U.S. patients believed
to have been infected with Chagas' disease through organ transplants,
according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Organ donors are screened for Chagas' in South America, where the
disease is much more common. No screening test for Chagas' is licensed
in the United States.

The two men, ages 64 and 73, died at separate Los Angeles hospitals
after being treated with Chagas'-fighting drugs from a special CDC
stockpile of medicines not available in this country.

The infected organs came from one person born in Central America and
another who had traveled to Mexico, the CDC reported.

One of the transplant patients died of something other than Chagas'
disease, CDC officials said. No autopsy was done on the second man, so
the role of Chagas' in his death is not known, said Heather Kun, a CDC
epidemiologist who led the investigation.

Chagas' disease can cause high fever, swelling, enlargement of the
spleen, liver and lymph nodes, and inflammation of the heart.

Most people infected do not get sick, but the disease can be fatal in
some cases and can be especially dangerous to people with suppressed
immune systems. Transplant patients receive immune-suppressing drugs
to prevent organ rejection.

"We think physicians need to look out for this" in patients taking
medication that suppresses the immune system, said Dr. Anne Moore, a
CDC epidemiologist.

In 2001, the CDC reported three cases of Chagas' in three U.S. women
who had received organs from an immigrant from Central America.
Doctors presumed the donor was infected, but no specimens were
available for testing.

Chagas' is spread by reduviid bugs, which live in the cracks and holes
of substandard housing. They are called "kissing bugs" because they
often bite people in the face. The bugs' feces contain a single-celled
parasite that can get pushed beneath the skin when people scratch
themselves or rub their eyes.

About 12 million people in Central and South America are infected with
Chagas', but only 100,000 U.S. residents have it, according to rough
estimates.

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24 posted on 03/22/2007 1:05:58 PM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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