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"Bong" case is not a legal landmark
Denver Post ^ | 21 Mar 07 | Al Knight

Posted on 03/21/2007 5:02:19 AM PDT by rellimpank

Numerous press accounts have claimed that the Supreme Court is about to make a landmark First Amendment ruling in a case based on a 2002 incident in which an Alaskan student waved a banner with the words "Bong hits 4 Jesus."

These reports are almost surely wrong. The only way this case could produce a landmark decision is if the court holds that the student has a right to personally sue the principal who seized his pro-drug banner and suspended him.

Such a decision would give every school administrator (or teacher for that matter) nightmares and repeal the notion that administrators and teachers who act reasonably should have qualified immunity from personal

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1 posted on 03/21/2007 5:02:25 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank
The way I understand it, the kids were let out of school to watch the parade, they weren't in it or there as an official school function.

If that's the case, it was none of the principal's business.

When government officials overreach, lawsuits should be an option. Cut that off, and Henry Bowman might end up coming around (not in a case like this...but it is a precedent.

-Eric

2 posted on 03/21/2007 5:06:34 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: rellimpank

"administrators and teachers who act reasonably"--from the few snippets of this case I saw on the news, it looked like the law would be in this idiot's favor, because the incident did not take place on school grounds, and apparently the principal lost it when she saw the banner across the street as the Olympic torch came by, and she ran over and destroyed it...the message on the banner was totally wrong, but I have the bad feeling that this one is going go to the bad guys. :-(


3 posted on 03/21/2007 5:07:37 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: rellimpank
The twit with the sign was not at a school function and was off school grounds. He was also excercising his first amendment rights on private property and should have been safe doing so under the 1st and 4th amendments. The principal will lose if the constitution is applied.

All that said the plaintiff is a stupid smart-ass and I for one could never call him friend.

4 posted on 03/21/2007 5:14:18 AM PDT by LibKill ("RUDY GIULIANI" is just "HILLARY CLINTON" misspelled and wearing a dress.)
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To: rellimpank

The lower courts have ruled in favor of the student but the school keeps pursuing it. The principal needs to get over herself and not burden the local taxpayers any further.


5 posted on 03/21/2007 5:14:32 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: mtbopfuyn

If the banner would have read: "Don't Do Bong Hits For Jesus" it still would have been challenged by the Nanny State on (anti) religious message/free speech fears. The kids -- as The Who might say -- are alright: leave 'em alone.


6 posted on 03/21/2007 6:44:59 AM PDT by Nick Thimmesch
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To: LibKill
The twit with the sign was not at a school function and was off school grounds. He was also excercising his first amendment rights on private property and should have been safe doing so under the 1st and 4th amendments. The principal will lose if the constitution is applied.

Yup. As much as we disagree with the sign, we must defend to the death the student's right to display it. The principal grossly overstepped his bounds.

Since the sign was not on school property, the question becomes: How far does the principal's influence extend? Does he have the right to tear down an offending sign in the student's front yard? Or perhaps in any location where one of his students might see it, like along the interstate? Clearly, that would be absurd. The principal's power extends only to the edge of the schoolyard.

The SC will, I'm sure, rule with the student.

7 posted on 03/21/2007 6:52:46 AM PDT by Terabitten (How is there no anger in the words I hear, only love and mercy, erasing every fear" - Rez Band)
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To: LibKill

Not at a school function? I wonder who the kids' parents would have sued if he'd gotten run over by a bus. You may be right, but I still wonder.


8 posted on 03/21/2007 7:13:04 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Terabitten

The principal was a woman.


9 posted on 03/21/2007 9:06:28 AM PDT by pillut48 (CJ in TX (Bible Thumper and Proud!))
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To: rellimpank
This is the first news post that nails the issue right off the bat.

The student sued the Principal, and the "administrator" is at risk for her over reaching abuse of authority.

Now I can see school administrators demanding well written guidelines from school boards and maybe actually following the guidelines. Oh, and starting to carry personal liability insurance to cover them when they screw the pooch.

About time taxpayer stopped footing the bill for morons running schools.
10 posted on 03/21/2007 10:07:17 AM PDT by ASOC ("Once humans are exposed to excellence, mere average desirability is disappointing")
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To: rellimpank
Such a decision would give every school administrator (or teacher for that matter) nightmares and repeal the notion that administrators and teachers who act reasonably should have qualified immunity from personal

Perhaps the schools shouldn't try and regulate what their students do away from campus. This wasn't some official school venue and activity, like a kid streaking the homecoming football game.

The schools need to leave such things to the parents (shocking concept I know).
11 posted on 03/22/2007 7:11:34 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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