End Sanctuary for Illegal Immigrants (Rudy's lawsuit protecting illegals 9/02

Capitalism Magazine ^ | 9/24/02 | Michelle Malkin

[P-40]

"People who are undocumented do not have to worry about city government going to the federal government," Bloomberg vowed.

Get ready for 9/11 v. 2 soon.

[beltfed308]

In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law.

Mr. Law and Order seems to lack respect of the law now does he.

[wolfcreek]

Reason #16 why Rudy is NOT the man for the job.

[TheBattman]

Rudy's stand on illegal immigration betrays his supposedly strong stand against terrorism.

It has been said over and over here on FR for a long time - any War on Terror that does not shut down our borders is no real war at all.

Of course, some Freepers (FINOs?) will come out swinging that Rudy is the last-best hope for the Republicans to defeat Hitlery...

And I will not go vomit just because I thought about Rudy...

[cgk]

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[oceanview]

there is no way local government can use its police forces, to do what INS cannot do. I've seen Rudy's pressers on this - in a country where INS is deporting 3000 people a year, a place like NYC with 400K illegals, can't use its police powers to go house to house and find them, to root their children out of schools, out of hospital emergency rooms, etc. If these illegals commit crimes, that's a different story.

this is the practical reality of having to run a city, in the face of a federal government that does nothing about this problem. These large cities aren't going to be places where children can't go to school and are otherwise on the street, or emergency rooms become "round up zones" for illegals - all done with local police forces, while INS deports hardly anyone.

[tumblindice]

"By filing the lawsuit, Republican Giuliani kept a promise to fight the provisions and fueled his momentum as a self-described national spokesman in favor of immigration, a position that has set him aside from many Republicans."
http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/11/immigration.suit/

Yer right, sir, the lessons to be learned from "America's Mayor" and illegal aliens are:
if there's a law you don't like, just ignore it;
and,
if it looks like a tough problem, just give up.

[sheana]

a country where INS is deporting 3000 people a year, a place like NYC with 400K illegals, can't use its police powers to go house to house and find them,

mmmm they don't have to. Police officers come across these people during everyday police work.....without actively searching for them. Pretty simple to incorporate another law into their enforcement.

[Lurker]

When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law

Buh Bye RINO Rudy.

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[Prokopton]

there is no way local government can use its police forces, to do what INS cannot do. I've seen Rudy's pressers on this

You've swallowed the bilge Rudy is spewing. No one said the local police had to enforce immigration law. However, the local police have to cooperate with the Feds and cannot actively shield illegal aliens from the enforcement of immigration laws. This is what Rudy did and what the Federal Courts told him was not legal.

[at bay]

"There's juth no political perthentage in buthting illegals."

---Julie Yawnee

Wrong and Buh Bye you wathcally gun grabber.

[stephenjohnbanker]

I might : )

[stephenjohnbanker]

BUMP!

[stephenjohnbanker]

Good photo!

[calex59]

there is no way local government can use its police forces, to do what INS cannot do. I've seen Rudy's pressers on this - in a country where INS is deporting 3000 people a year, a place like NYC with 400K illegals, can't use its police powers to go house to house and find them, to root their children out of schools, out of hospital emergency rooms, etc. If these illegals commit crimes, that's a different story.

BS, buddy, I call BS on your post. Cities don't have to arrest illegals, they simply have to turn them into INS. If our feds were actively pursuing illegals this would be enough, until we get a president who wants to keep our country soveriegn we won't hope for that. Rudy is a law breaking asshat and he contributed to 9/11 by ignoring immigration laws and requiring city personel to NOT report illegals. This greatly aided the terrorists in their dirty killing spree. Instead of being proclaimed a hero of 9/11 he should be touted for what he really did, aiding and abetting,indirectly, but aiding none the less.

As for you "seeing Rudy's pressers on this" what the hell do you think he is going to say about his lawbreaking policy? What makes you think it is ok for him to break the law? Does he have an immunity the rest of us lack?

[Jane Austen]

Stupid of him.

[Alberta's Child]

Baloney. Giuliani went to such great lengths to protect illegal aliens in New York City because the city's economy would collapse without them.

It's gotten so bizarre here that in the aftermath of that tragic house fire in the Bronx a couple of weeks ago (in which 10 people lost their lives), nobody wanted to go near some of the most important question of all . . .

Why the hell was this family of polygamist Muslim illegal aliens to settle here?

[oceanview]

here's an interview he did on the topic with regards to how NYC conducted itself:

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2006/08/rudy_on_immigration.html

Which states and local governments are using their police to actively round up illegals - at schools, emergency rooms - to set them up for INS deportation? are they doing it anywhere in the country (except for Arpaio in Arizona)? show me a conservative state that does it.

[oceanview]

see post #19.

which cities are using their police forces to identify illegals to INS for deportation? INS hardly deports anyone. if an illegal is caught committing a crime, that's a different story. but I know of no locale in the country that uses their local police to conduct "round ups". you can go to any state in the country, and in the parking lot at the local Home Depot, are illegal day laborers wating for jobs - untouched by local police.