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To: Pox
I am intimitately familiar with the inner financial machinations of the party. You will see Fred Thompson bow out. He is not getting the financial backing, or frankly even the grassroots tide, that he was looking for, and Giuliani's numbers just keep getting better.

You can go to Tradesports.com and buy Thompson futures for 8 cents on the dollar. He is a conservative pipedream, but a false hope. His possible candidacy has stalled some other conservatives, and that also helps Giuliani, so Thompson might wait a while before he formally anounces that he is not running. The first primary is less than a year away, but this thing is all but over already, by the simple fact that the system has been rigged in such a way that an underfunded candidate cannot possibly take it.

Just look at the numbers. For a guy like Hunter to get the name recognition he needs will take at least ten impressions per voter at a minimum of $20 per thousand per impression. So you are looking at $2 per vote minimum just to get equal name recognition. There are 8 million or so Republicans in California, ao you are talking $16 million just to get equal name recognition. To get voters to understand the differences between the candidates, build preference for Hunter and close the deal will take at least another $2 per vote. Now you are at $32 million, and that's just the one state. Plus, it assumes that Giuliani runs a weak campaign as he matches or outspends his opponent.

So the only candidates with a realistic chance are going to be those with name recognition already. Thompson has face recognition if not name recognition, but as they try to figure out what message and how much money in media it will take to get him over Giuliani, assuming Giuliani can match him dollar for dollar, he needs $20 million minimum, and really more like $50 million just to compete. A lot of that money will have to be spent building up Giuliani's negatives, which would only hurt the party in November were Giuliani able to defend the attack.

The party's financial backers are asking the obvious question: if we've already got a guy who gets 50 percent of the vote, why throw good money at someone to tear that candidate down? Principle? Please. Principle might matter to Freepers, but it matters little to the big money folks. They took a financial beating backing social conservatives in 2006, so they are going for a different kind of horse this time. The polls suggest that Giuliani is a thoroughbred who can win in the fall, and the money wants to back a winner more than anything else.

279 posted on 03/20/2007 2:17:00 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: massadvj
What a shame. What you're saying, basically, is that money buys the Presidency.
How low we've sunk if that is the case.
282 posted on 03/20/2007 2:20:12 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: massadvj
Just in case you missed your own words...
Principle might matter to Freepers, but it matters little to the big money folks. They took a financial beating backing social conservatives in 2006, so they are going for a different kind of horse this time. The polls suggest that Giuliani is a thoroughbred who can win in the fall, and the money wants to back a winner more than anything else.
A Presidency, bought and paid for by the big money folks.
And don't forget, "the money" will want that horse to pay off once he wins too. You ought to ask yourself...What's the price to be paid?
290 posted on 03/20/2007 2:25:32 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: massadvj
You're full of shi'ite, IMO.

It's still 10 months out from the primaries, and you've swallowed the liberal MSM koolaid wholesale. Anything can happen between now and then, and your insistence that you have an insider's point of view I do not believe.

Instead of blindly following what the MSM liberals want, which is one of the Rudy McRomney 3, why not put our efforts into convincing Mr. Thompson that he would be the best candidate the Republicans could field, as in encourage him to run.

Hitlery can be beaten easily by Mr. Thompson, and I'm going on record now as stating that Giuliani will not win the election, and having him as the ticket will be a disaster for the country in another way, win or lose.

Giuliani will not encourage conservatives to get out and vote come election day. That translates to the dims picking up even more seats in the House and Senate. Get it?

You RINO Rudy supporters need to step back from the abyss and see what your line of reasoning has in store for this country come election day. Disaster is the theme.
291 posted on 03/20/2007 2:28:22 PM PDT by Pox (Just say NO to RINO Rudy!)
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To: massadvj
You can go to Tradesports.com and buy Thompson futures for 8 cents on the dollar.

So in your opinion, should one go long or short at that price?

If the price is even remotely indicative of his probability of success, I'd say it's way too soon to bow out. Sure a 12:1 may not be a favorite to win, but a one in twelve shot is nothing to sneeze at.

423 posted on 03/25/2007 11:53:12 AM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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