Giuliani Top Choice Among Both Moderate and Conservative Republicans (New Gallup Poll)

Gallup ^ | 3/20/07

[papasmurf]

"As bad as an HRC presidency would be, I would rather let that embarrassment (ala Carter) be directly put upon the dims instead of the same embarrassing results be reflected upon the Republicans by RINO Rudy. Consider that."

I'm in your corner on that one!

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[massadvj]

Hitlery can be beaten easily by Mr. Thompson, and I'm going on record now as stating that Giuliani will not win the election

Then I suggest you put your money where your mouth is. $8 dollars will get you a hundred if Thompson gets the nomination, let alone the presidency. I like Thompson and I hope you win. But it's not a bet I would make.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Those polls are as valid as DU polls and for the same reason- there will be tens of millions of voters who are NOT hard rightists or hard Leftists. We have no way of controlling for people who want to skew the results to hurt the GOP.

Why do people ignore the wisdom they happily apply to the Left's actions? It is UNIVERSALLY acknowledged here that allowing the DUmmies to choose the Party of Treason's candidate would mean CERTAIN defeat yet they are oblivious to the fact that allowing FReepers to choose the Republican would do just the same. This site is NOT representative.

[InfraRed]

Gee whiz, a FR poll as evidence Rudy can be beaten?

Perhaps you should go back and read some of the thread before chiming in. My point, all along, has been that Rudy is DIVISIVE. The most recent presidential elections make it obvious to all but the most obtuse that the Republican party cannot afford a DIVISIVE candidate. The FR forum and polls show a strong indication that Rudy is a divisive candidate. How many voters do you really want to drive away from the Republican party? A voter here or there, no problem. Drive large blocks of voters away (gun owners, pro lifers, anti gay mariage, anti illegal immigration, etc., etc., etc.), and we have a BIG problem.

[philman_36]

Rudy's stances are no mystery.
Well give a link.
His accomplishments have been listed over and over as you know.
But how do I know they're the right ones? You've publically stated that the ones listed earlier were wrong. Give me a link to get the straight poop.
These you ignore to concentrate upon the laws he served under and pretenses that he would govern the nation like he did NYC.
And how do you know that? And if I am then you're being given a perfect opportunity to throw them in my face where I can't ignore them.
This is consistent with your tendency to underestimate his ability, his appeal and his intelligence.
And where have I done that? Be precise.
Add to that the great love of insulting those who support him and you don't get a winning combination.
And where have I done that? Be precise.

[justshutupandtakeit]

You convinced me. Any poll without consulting you or me is invalid. Glad that was straightened out.

[philman_36]

This country was established not by peasants with pitchforks,or even religious zealots, but by merchants mad about their taxes.
WHEW! Now that's a new historical twist. Are you saying that only merchants paid taxes?

[Pox]

Why make a bet on a candidate who has not declared as of yet? Pointless, obviously. Our mission should be to encourage him to run due to the uninspiring (for the most part) choosings that have been offered to now.

If you're so eager to hand even more seats in the House and Senate to the left come election day, just keep on pushing RINO Rudy.

Caveat Emptor.

[justshutupandtakeit]

You know exactly why you oppose Giuliani so stop the pretense.

[InfraRed]

This site is NOT representative.

Then shouldn't you be selling Rudy to some "moderates" and liberals elsewhere? No offense, but if this site is too conservative to support Rudy, then what is the point in trying? It seems a wasted effort.

[philman_36]

Hillary will have more to spend than Rudy and she won't even get close.
Get close to what?

[philman_36]

Oy vey! publically = publicly

[massadvj]

If you're so eager to hand even more seats in the House and Senate to the left come election day, just keep on pushing RINO Rudy

Our candidates in New Jersey, Washington, Oregon, California, New York and lots of other places are itching for a Giuliani candidacy because he will be viable in these states and it has been a long time since Republicans in marginal districts in these places have had someone they can campaign with.

Giuliani beats Hillary by 8 in New Jersey right now. He beats her by four in Pennsylvania right now. Far from disenchantment, Republican congressional and senate candidates are extremely enthusiastic about Rudy, which is why he has more endorsements from congress members than any other candidate.

[philman_36]

You know exactly why you oppose Giuliani so stop the pretense.
But you've said, more or less, that everything I've read about him is wrong. Where is the straight scoop? Now is your chance to set me straight and convert me. All it takes is a little effort on your part.

And since this is the only thing you've touched on out of all of your previous "claims" I'm assuming that the rest of your post was nothing more than you spouting off at the mouth.

[justshutupandtakeit]

To me for one. Are you practicing being dense or is it natural?

[justshutupandtakeit]

I never run from a good fight. Besides the site WILL support Rudy when he gets the nomination. Hell I may not vote for him in the primary.

Why do I go on a thread and fight for scores of posts with those believing the Confederates were right? Or argue over the NFL?

Who wants to talk to a bunch of yesmen about anything?

[dforest]

The RATs and you know it. Don't get carried away. They do not let go of that stuff lightly.

It will be used as needed. Impossible for Rudy to hide in his blonde wig and fishnet hose!

Your explanation is not good enough for me. I never underestimate the Democrats.

I may detest all they stand for, which Rudy also stands for part of the same, but they are wily and mean.

They also have the media to carry their water.

[justshutupandtakeit]

No I didn't. But in any case I don't do links not on this or any other thread. If my own words do not suffice I am not going to throw thousands from someone eles at you.

[InfraRed]

I never run from a good fight.

Then why not fight for one of the good guys, rather than Rudy the divisive RINO?

[justshutupandtakeit]

Rudy does not need to hide from pictures of him performing for charity affairs or on SNL. Most people understand theatrics are only that.

Those pictures only titilate the Rudyphobic they have no other importance.