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Giuliani Changes His Stance To Accept Right to Abortion (Rudy---yet again)
NY Times ^ | 8/4/1989 | Franky Lynn

Posted on 03/19/2007 12:07:06 PM PDT by pissant

Rudolph W. Giuliani, clarifying once again his stance on abortion, completely accepted yesterday women's ''right of choice'' on abortion, except for a personal disclaimer.

Mr. Giuliani, who is seeking the Republican nomination for mayor of New York City, began the year advocating that the United States Supreme Court overturn the Roe v. Wade decision, which legalized abortion in 1973. Yesterday, he said he ''will oppose making abortion illegal.'' As late as last month, he said he had no position on what the Governor or the State Legislature should do about abortion.

Mr. Giuliani's statement yesterday was viewed as a ''flip-flop'' by Democratic mayoral contenders.

He insisted in an interview that he had not changed his position and that an overturn of Roe v. Wade would merely return the matter to the states. He said abortion had been legal in New York State at the time of the decision. He added that even before he became a formal candidate, he had opposed ''criminal sanctions'' for abortions. 'Placed in Doubt'

''The statement was a clarification,'' he said in a telephone interview, ''because my position was placed in doubt by a lot of things that others said.''

His statement represented the culmination of a struggle between the candidate who has consistently said he personally opposes abortions and his advisers who said he could not appeal to the general electorate with anything short of the ''choice'' stand adopted by many other Roman Catholic politicians, like Gov. Mario M. Cuomo.

Such a position could hurt him in the Republican primary, in which Italian- and Irish-American Catholics constitute nearly half the voters. But his Republican opponent, Ronald Lauder, also supports the right to an abortion, though he opposes taxpayer financing.

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Yesterday's statement said: ''As mayor, Rudy Giuliani will uphold a woman's right of choice to have an abortion. Giuliani will fund all city programs which provide abortions to insure that no woman is deprived of her right due to an inability to pay. He will oppose reductions in state funding. He will oppose making abortion illegal. Although Giuliani is personally opposed to abortion, his personal views will not interfere with his responsibilities as mayor.''

Romney may be hurting his back with his flipping, but at least he is moving in the right direction...

1 posted on 03/19/2007 12:07:11 PM PDT by pissant
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To: pissant

Just waiting for Thompson to throw his hat in the ring.


2 posted on 03/19/2007 12:09:50 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: pissant

JOHN ROBERTS FOR PRESIDENT '08

If you like him as Supreme Court Chief Justice, you'll love him as President!


3 posted on 03/19/2007 12:10:41 PM PDT by anonsquared
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To: pissant

Rudy Giuliani is not going to be the nominee for the Republican Party, the abortion issue will kill him with the conservative voters who constitute the majority of voters in the primaries. If Fred Thompson runs, I hope he does, he is going to easily win the nomination. I think we should know by July if he is going to run or not.


4 posted on 03/19/2007 12:10:54 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Graybeard58

Most of us are waiting as well :)


5 posted on 03/19/2007 12:12:40 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Graybeard58

Not I. Got my man lined up already. Thompson would be a welcome addition though.


6 posted on 03/19/2007 12:13:09 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: anonsquared

LOL.


7 posted on 03/19/2007 12:14:06 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: pissant

old news!

Forget what he's said and done all his life! Instead, pay attention to the spin coming out of his campaign now! That's what matters!

(note: This only applies to rudy giuliani. If a candidate with a (D) tries to do the same thing, they should be attacked for it.)


8 posted on 03/19/2007 12:15:25 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: Graybeard58
new poll

Total 763 votes cast.

Fred Thompson 81.78%
Rudy Guiliani 9.17%
Other 3.80%
John McCain 3.28%
Mitt Romney 1.97%

9 posted on 03/19/2007 12:16:01 PM PDT by APRPEH (id theft info available on my profile page)
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To: pissant

You do realize that when Rudy is defeated in the primaries, the people here who support him will blame us.


10 posted on 03/19/2007 12:16:15 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: jveritas

Rudy has lots of cash, so we shall see. I think Thompson has a better shot than Newt, though I think Newt is more likely to run. His adultery confession last week sounds like he's airing his dirty laundry ahead of time.


11 posted on 03/19/2007 12:16:33 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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I am told that Mayor Giuliani doesn't need the social conservative vote. He would draw enough "independents" and Democrats to offset the loss of us old fogies, who believe in antiquitated old notions like sanctity of life and the 2nd Amendment.


12 posted on 03/19/2007 12:19:43 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: airborne

Well, according to them, they will happily vote for whoever is the nominee. And to be frank, I'd love to be the one who was cited for causing him to falter.

Rudy for CIA chief 08!


13 posted on 03/19/2007 12:21:14 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: airborne
You do realize that when Rudy is defeated in the primaries, the people here who support him will blame us.

Credit, not blame.

14 posted on 03/19/2007 12:21:24 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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Rudy for CIA chief 08!

We don't need someone with so little respect for innocent life (pro-abortion), and so little respect for our Constitution (anti-2nd Amendment) to be in ANY position of power above the level of DOG CATCHER.

RINO-rudy for Bronx Dog Catcher in 08!!!

15 posted on 03/19/2007 12:25:38 PM PDT by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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Rudy for CIA chief 08!

And like J. Edgar Hoover of the FBI, the CIA doesn't frown on cross dressing. ;^)

16 posted on 03/19/2007 12:26:38 PM PDT by airborne (Airborne! Ranger! Vietnam Vet! That's why I support DUNCAN HUNTER 2008!)
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To: pissant

Whatever his ideological positives, Newt will never have a sympathetic image, whether or not he enters the media confessional. He's more like high-cabinet appointment material. I would be very intrigued by a Thompson/Brownback ticket.


17 posted on 03/19/2007 12:27:24 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: pissant

If the current top three names (Mitt, Rudy, McCain) are all that's on the Republican ballot, I'll vote in the dim primary for Al Sharpton.

If rev Al gets enough primary votes to stroke his fat ego, he might just run as an independent in the general.


18 posted on 03/19/2007 12:27:44 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: pissant

Rino Rudy says, "Look at me! I can talk out of both sides of my mouth."


19 posted on 03/19/2007 12:29:57 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: RabidBartender
I am told that Mayor Giuliani doesn't need the social conservative vote.

This has to be the strategy his advisers are considering. They may have to concede a number of mostly lower population states in the Upper South and the Border states of MO, KY, and WV, and possibly IA and OH as well. However, a Giuliani-Clinton race may move moderately liberal voters in the Northeast and California to the Republican side, especially male voters and blue collar, union Democrats. If Giuliani can carry NJ, PA, CT, RI, DE, NH, and ME, and NY and CA as well, he can get elected even if he wins by narrower margins in the "deep red" states and loses some of the "light red" ones.

The current conservative movement would be hard pressed to come up with the funds and organization needed to challenge Giuliani via a third party. Men like Brownback, Tancredo, Hunter, and Paul would be writing their own political death warrant in running on a conservative third party alternative.

20 posted on 03/19/2007 12:31:08 PM PDT by Wallace T.
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