Giuliani backtracks on smoking comment (smoke Nazi)

TCM ^ | 9/19/03 | staff

[pissant]

A day after he implied that Ireland should not follow New York City’s example and pass a ban on smoking in all workplaces, Rudolph Giuliani called Mayor Michael Bloomberg to say that was not what he meant.

Bloomberg said the former mayor told him that he meant that Ireland, which currently has no smoking restrictions, should begin to restrict smoking slowly, rather than all at once.

“He just thought that sometimes you go partways to get there, let people adjust and then go the rest of the way,” Bloomberg said yesterday.

Giuliani said that it made more sense to restrict smoking to certain areas.

[EnquiringMind]

Ah, so you get to impose your views on other smokers, eh?

I couldn't give a rat's a$$ about other smokers.

[Bigh4u2]

"I am thankful that my state passed strict smoking laws, it helped me quit."

So you needed the state to pass a law so you could quit?

And you think because you wanted to quit, others do to?

"All smokers want to quit, they just don't all admit it. "

No. It's more like....

"I'm just a liberal, but I just don't want to admit it"

[flashbunny]

"It was glorious freedom!!!"

No, freedom is what business owners used to have before nanny state lovers like you started taking away their freedom in the name of your convenience.

[GOP_Lady]

I would not either, especially if the law mandates fines (not a nice way to treat your fellow citizens). The more Rudy opens his mouth, the less I'm inclined to vote for him as well.

[dirtboy]

I couldn't give a rat's a$$ about other smokers.

Yeah, who cares if a bar wanted to be open to smokers, and you would be free to not go to it? As long as you have your way. Who cares about property rights?

The more I learn about the attitudes of Rudy and those who support him, the more opposed I get to him.

[GOP_Lady]

And they say Mitt Romney's back-spinning is out of control??? Hah!

[EnquiringMind]

See post #41.

[TigersEye]

I am thankful that my state passed strict smoking laws, it helped me quit.

What a weakling. Take responsibility for your own actions.

All smokers want to quit, they just don't all admit it.

BS. I have no desire to quit.

[calex59]

You could have always done that, you could have quit on your own, they way I did, many years ago, you could go to dinner at a restaurant that doesn't allow smoking as part of their policy not the states. There is never a reason to pass restrictive laws on a LEGAL activity. Either outlaw smoking, or leave it up to the property owners to decide. Any other way is unconstitutional.

Don't believe smoking bans for private property are unconstitutional? Then you are indeed a liberal and a true nanny stater. Rudy will never get my vote, either in the primary or the general election.

[CharlesWayneCT]

They might also try:
3.) Explain that Rudy would never act on his principles on this matter if he was President.

[TitansAFC]

---"My town passed a no smoking law.

This is the first St Patrick's Day that my friends and I were able to go out to the bars, watch the game clearly, wear what we wanted without dry cleaning and not have to shower the smoke stench off of us before we went to bed.

It was glorious freedom!!!"---

Yeah, now if they could just ban alcohol, too. Then we'd be free of the booze smell and the drunks, as well as the cigarette smell in bars.

[Bonaparte]

"... defines irony."

You beat me by 13 minutes!

We shed our blood to be independent of a government that taxed and regulated us to death. We risked it all to win the freedom to choose for ourselves. Something that basic is lost on some people.

[Rita Hayworth]

Freedom is not having to stink like you.

[FreedomNeocon]

At first I figured it was good natured debate on the primary issues...

But I'm starting to get a sick feeling in my stomach now that people are PAYING staffers to post and have 'official representatives' on Free Republic.. and the subsequent spread out attacks on the various campaigns.

I had come to expect more from some of you...

[GOP_Lady]

http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh/clean_indoor_air_act/employers.htm

What are the penalties?

The enforcement officer for a city or county health department can assess a penalty of up to $1,000 for each violation. In areas where the State Health Department is the enforcement officer, a fine of up to $2,000 may be assessed.

[EnquiringMind]

OK, allow me to re-phrase this: All smokers with half a brain want to quit. There.

[Oliver Optic]

“He just thought that sometimes you go partways to get there, let people adjust and then go the rest of the way,”

Maybe Bloomberg was misquoting Rudy, but if not ... that statement is beyond scary.

[Bigh4u2]

Why that's mighty 'judgemental' of you..

'Rights for me, but not for thee'?

Seems so.

[GOP_Lady]

And I worked downtown this past St. Patrick's Day. My husband advised me to be careful going home with drunks on the road. St. Patrick's Day is one of the top drunk-diving days. Maybe they should have banned alochol first.

[Bonaparte]

"Kindly speak for yourself and not others."

What can we expect from someone who cedes his freedom of choice to government, who permits authoritarian parent figures to force him to choose what he lacks the will to choose for himself? Of course he's going to assume that everybody must want what he wants and should be forced to have it.