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Giuliani backtracks on smoking comment (smoke Nazi)
TCM ^ | 9/19/03 | staff

Posted on 03/19/2007 10:22:16 AM PDT by pissant

A day after he implied that Ireland should not follow New York City’s example and pass a ban on smoking in all workplaces, Rudolph Giuliani called Mayor Michael Bloomberg to say that was not what he meant.

Bloomberg said the former mayor told him that he meant that Ireland, which currently has no smoking restrictions, should begin to restrict smoking slowly, rather than all at once.

“He just thought that sometimes you go partways to get there, let people adjust and then go the rest of the way,” Bloomberg said yesterday.

Giuliani said that it made more sense to restrict smoking to certain areas.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: electionpresident; giuliani; nannystate; pufflist; rudy; smoking; smokingbans
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To: pissant
he meant that Ireland, which currently has no smoking restrictions,

HUH? You can't smoke in the pubs in Ireland.

141 posted on 03/19/2007 12:49:15 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Hajjis HATE the waterboard! It can turn a clam into a canary so fast Harry Potter would be jealous.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
...cannot change the facts that the vast majority of the population does not want smokers to be able to impose their smoke on them. Even other smokers don't always like it. This "issue" will not harm Rudy one iota.

Of course it won't. The people in the mob agree with mob rule... until the mob turns around and comes after them.

142 posted on 03/19/2007 12:49:46 PM PDT by Wissa (I despise the liberal media.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
“He just thought that sometimes you go partways to get there, let people adjust and then go the rest of the way,” Bloomberg said yesterday.
143 posted on 03/19/2007 12:49:47 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations that became indifferent to God and died." - WC)
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To: CholeraJoe

They followed Rudy's and Bloombergs model and banned it last year.


144 posted on 03/19/2007 12:50:36 PM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Just a truth teller.

with absolutely zero respect for you.


145 posted on 03/19/2007 12:53:02 PM PDT by flashbunny (<--- Free Anti-Rino graphics! See Rudy the Rino get exposed as a liberal with his own words!)
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To: mysterio
I will never vote for a smoke nazi.

I know. You only vote for non-smoking nazis.

146 posted on 03/19/2007 12:53:08 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Public licensing laws trump property rights

Just one step in abolition of private property--right out of the Communist Manifesto.

147 posted on 03/19/2007 12:54:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Do you really want a return to the day of smoking in the workplace, in buses, planes, trains, ANYWHERE?

On private property? Hell yes. I believe in the right of free association. If you don't want to go into Joe's Pub because it's a smoking establishment, go down the street to Josephine's Tea Room and Lace Panty Shop. I don't care, and neither does "Joe," probably.

Is it a conservative position that Non-smokers have no rights but must justshutupandtakeit?

You have the right not to breathe cigarette smoke if you don't want to. The way to do it and not destroy everyone else's freedom is for you to simply stay the heck away from smokers. Is that too difficult for you?

148 posted on 03/19/2007 12:56:20 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations that became indifferent to God and died." - WC)
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To: pissant

Just started month 2 as a non smoker.
Feels good to breath, save, and not choke the
people around me..

But I will always despise smoking nazis and
promise to never become one.

People should be free to do as they please as long as it doesnt harm others imo.


149 posted on 03/19/2007 12:58:45 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: EnquiringMind
EnquiringMind said "All smokers want to quit, they just don't all admit it."

Not all.. there are a few of us who didn't fall in line with the sheeple and actually ENJOY smoking.

Some of us don't even want to quit.. shocking isn't it? Some of us can decide for ourselves what we like and dislike and didnt need nanny Rudy or Bloomburg to tell us how to live.

150 posted on 03/19/2007 12:59:03 PM PDT by eXe (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: EternalVigilance

"Josephine's Tea Room and Lace Panty Shop"

LOL


151 posted on 03/19/2007 1:00:09 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: dirtboy

These laws are the result of the democratic process wherein elected officials listen to their constitutents and respond accordingly. There is no "right" to smoke or drink anywhere in public.

Should I be able to go and ruin a fellow diner's meal by firing up my cigar?

Now in the past over which so many become excessively nostalgic smoking was not even done in mixed company and not at meals. Gentlemen would retire to the study for brandy and cigars.


152 posted on 03/19/2007 1:01:56 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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You can always fast forward to the arguments on these types
of threads just for the entertainment value.
I skipped to page 3 right off to find the arguing.


153 posted on 03/19/2007 1:02:52 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: justshutupandtakeit
These laws are the result of the democratic process wherein elected officials listen to their constitutents and respond accordingly.

Exactly the process our Founders feared would erode basic liberties.

There is no "right" to smoke or drink anywhere in public.

We have no "rights" anymore anyway. Everything can be infringed, the BOR be damned. That's what happens when too many people like you buy into the notion that a private business cannot run its business in the manner it sees fit when people are not forced to either patronize it or work for it.

154 posted on 03/19/2007 1:04:05 PM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: Moonman62

No, I don't vote for statists. The smoking issue is a good indicator of whether a candidate has contempt for individual freedom and property ownership.


155 posted on 03/19/2007 1:07:23 PM PDT by mysterio
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Though I am sure you would prefer just half the story the other half is that any seizure of autos would go before a civil court jury. You likely even know this already.

I didn't know that. I still don't know that since you provided nothing to substantiate that. I even said I didn't I hadn't heard of the story at all in a previous post.

156 posted on 03/19/2007 1:08:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option!)
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To: dirtboy

A cradle-to-grave nanny state. Complete leftist control over everything you breath, drink, eat and think. That's what these people crave.


157 posted on 03/19/2007 1:12:09 PM PDT by EternalVigilance ("History is cluttered with the wreckage of nations that became indifferent to God and died." - WC)
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To: pissant

How the heck does he suggest what another country should do?


158 posted on 03/19/2007 1:19:12 PM PDT by wastedyears ("These colours don't run, from cold bloody war." - Steve Harris, Bruce Dickinson)
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To: Just another Joe

Thanks JaJ, I never saw that one before!


159 posted on 03/19/2007 1:28:53 PM PDT by Gabz (I like mine with lettuce and tomato, heinz57 and french-fried potatoes)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

"There is no "right" to smoke or drink anywhere in public. "

Really?

You must be reading a different Constitution than I did.

"Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people. "


160 posted on 03/19/2007 1:31:37 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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