Posted on 03/19/2007 9:37:58 AM PDT by neverdem
The south should give thanks to the sainted martyr Lincoln, who saved the south from ignoble leaders.
Unfortunately the 'father of big government' has been with us from the beginning. From the monarchist Hamilton to his 'student' Clay to Clay's lackey follower until even today. Republicans would expand, and have expanded, the national government to proportions unimagined by even the most ardent Federalist.
A lot of people have the idea that the Copperheads were the conservatives of their day. That wasn't always true. A lot of old radicals and laborites supported the Democrats, and more or less gave some aid and comfort to the Confederacy. David Goodman Croly, a radical married to an early feminist, accused Lincoln of promoting "race mixing." His son, Herbert, went on to be one of the founders of the liberal New Republic magazine.
True enough. There were some factors. "Jimmuh" was indeed a southerner, home court advantage. He claimed to be an evangelical, always good in the south. And there was the general disgust with Nixon that rubbed off on Ford even though Ford did not deserve this.
I voted for Ford.
"Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts and Rep. Charles Rangel have suggested that soldiers fighting in Iraq are there because they are not smart enough to do anything else."
i always wondered why kerry went to vietnam, now i know!
kerry wasn't smart enough to do anything else. (/s)
ping for later
Glad I clicked this thread. This is an extremely clever argument -- perfect for stymieing the reparations crowd. I'm going to use it if I get a chance.
Ya, some Monarchist who took up a musket and bayonet and fought monarchy not with words like the aristocrat of Monticello, but with hot lead and cold steel -- all against very long odds.
Was the 'old' man who relied on Hamilton during war, took his wise advise on financial matters during peace, and looked on him as a son, a monarchist too?
It would only be fair to add him to your list of monarchists as well, since Hamilton never had bit of power or authority that was not through that old man.
Our Revolution would not have lasted a generation if not for Hamilton. Thank God for him.
Lincoln carried Wisconsin 56%-44% in 1864, and got the same 56% in 1860. His numbers were pulled down I suspect by the substantial numbers of Germans in Wisconsin, particularly German Catholics, the latter of which simply didn't vote GOP at all.
By Way of Defection - Is Iran hemorrhaging high-level officials?
Amnesty Follies - The false inevitability of "Comprehensive immigration reform."
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Glad I clicked this thread. This is an extremely clever argument -- perfect for stymieing the reparations crowd. I'm going to use it if I get a chance.
Here's links to the definition of payor and payee. IMHO, it only makes sense and is just if the dems are the payors.
Thanks for the ping!
I wouldn't assert that he was the father of big government, although that case can be cogently made, but I will assert that, in order to "preserve" the Union, he destroyed the Republic.
How did he destroy the Republic?
Slavery is the biggest Big Government program of all.
Equating excessive taxation with Chattel slavery is kind of silly.
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Go ahead and bet something of value on it.
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