Posted on 03/18/2007 11:17:46 PM PDT by FairOpinion
Can America's mayor win support from enough social conservatives to win the Republican nomination?
Maybe not, but social conservatives should think long and hard before they decide to pass on Giuliani. This may be difficult advice to credit. Giuliani is thoroughly alienated from the dominant concerns of the social right.
Mayor Giuliani delivered what they needed most. He reclaimed New York City from the toxic leftism of his predecessors but in the process identified himself with the moral elements of their leftism.
social conservatives are concerned about social rot and Giuliani is one of the very few executives in the history of the world with a record of reversing rot. This is appealing.
On September 11, 2001 and the days that followed he auditioned for commander in chief and the audition went well. This too is appealing. If we don't bestir ourselves to win our war with Islamic fascism, the moral state of our civilization won't matter. We won't be around to wallow in sin.
Social conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who agrees with them less but fights for them more. This is the crux of Giuliani's appeal to the social right and every other Republican constituency. He is a fighter, and Republicans of all sorts are sick and tired of turning the other cheek and seeking common cause with the enemy both at home and abroad.
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First thing you got right. Hope it's a trend.
Believe it or not, among those who met him, so was Bill Clinton (How else do you think he got away with so much?--it wasn't all arkanside).
So he is a popular guy, a fighter, a guy who will get things done.
One little problem. He combines all that with an historical stance on seminal issues which many Conservatives find incompatible with their fundamental culture and religion.
It woul be the equivalent of signing a crackerjack basketball center who is going to play for the other team. Forget it.
Well...at least it's meant to be comedy ;)
So to you, gun-grabbing is cool and a quality of a "?REAL law and order guy", right? I've been trying to get a straight answer from you on this since 2003, but you robtically avoid answering. It's funny and sad at the same time.
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Now that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.(but it's early)
If you think Rino Rudy is a social conservative they please let me know what the heck you are drinking. But be advised that anti-freeze is not a beverage.
Ginsburg conservatives.
But could we please stick to the election at hand?
These are the Republican primaries, and we're talking about who we want to lead us.
We can talk about getting behind the selected candidate when the time comes, but this constant" only Rudy can beat Hillary" is kind of insulting to our intelligence.
Anybody can beat Hillary if the Party is united against her!
" Its just a GUT FEELING, but this guy put it into words that all the naysayers can understand."
You're gut's been lying to you Al. Sorry, no cigar.
|
Giuliani | Clinton | Dem Platform | GOP Platform |
---|---|---|---|---|
Abortion on Demand | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Partial Birth Abortion | SupportsOpposed NY ban | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Roe v. Wade | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Taxpayer Funded Abortions | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Embryonic Stem Cell Research | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Federal Marriage Amendment | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes Defined at state level |
Supports |
Gay Domestic Partnership/ Civil Unions |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Openly Gay Military | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Defense of Marriage Act | Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Amnesty for Illegal Aliens | Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Special Path to Citizenship for Illegal Aliens |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Tough Penalties for Employers of Illegal Aliens |
Opposes | Opposes | Opposes | Supports |
Sanctuary Cities/ Ignoring Immigration Law |
Supports | Supports | Supports | Opposes |
Protecting 2nd Amendment | Opposes |
Opposes | Opposes Supports bans |
Supports |
Confiscating Guns | Supports Confiscated as mayor. Even bragged. |
Supports | Supports Supports bans |
Opposes |
'Assault' Weapons Ban | Supports | Supports | Supports | |
Frivolous Lawsuits Against Gun Makers |
Supports Filed One Himself |
Supports | Opposes | |
Gun Registration/Licenses | Supports | Supports | Opposes | |
War in Afghanistan | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports | Supports |
War in Iraq | Supports | Supports Voted for it |
Supports Weak support |
Supports |
Patriot Act | Supports | Supports Voted for it 2001 & 2006 |
Opposes | Supports |
Now that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day.(but it's early)
That sounds like Newspeak from the book, '1984'.
Many of the turn the other cheek conservatives are incapable of fighting the democrats.
"Social conservatives could benefit from the presidency of someone who fights hard supporting the things that the strenuously object to!"
Doesn't sound so good now.
That's the best you can come up with?
On the contrary, we''re fighting the Democrats right now!
Good point Elyse----after several Rudeo flops, the Rudyoids got frantic when they discovered to their horror they really need conservatives to make a decent showing.
The Rudyoids campaign playbook now includes:
(1) 1984
(2) Identity Theft Made Easy---How to Steal A Conservative ID to Win Elections, and,
(3) Top Ten Come to Jesus Moments to Scam Conservatives Into Believing You are One of Them.
What is it about Hillary that has you pissing your pants? Not even my most liberal friends want to talk about supporting her.
Good morning..it's a beautiful Mnday morning..FYI
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