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Blair, Bush could face probe at The Hague
Telegraph ^ | March 19, 2007 | Gethin Chamberlain

Posted on 03/18/2007 11:05:43 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

TONY Blair could face the prospect of an International Criminal Court investigation for alleged coalition war crimes in Iraq.

The court's chief prosecutor said at the weekend that he would be willing to launch an inquiry and could envisage a scenario in which the British Prime Minister and US President George Bush could one day face charges at The Hague.

Luis Moreno-Ocampo urged Arab countries, particularly Iraq, to sign up to the court to enable allegations against the West to be pursued. Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations said that his country was actively considering signing up.

The US has refused to accept the court's jurisdiction and is unlikely to hand over any of its citizens to face trial. However, Britain has signed up and the Government has indicated its willingness to tackle accusations of war crimes against a number of British soldiers.

Mr Moreno-Ocampo said it was frustrating that the court was viewed in the Arab world as biased in favour of the West.

Asked whether he could envisage a situation in which Mr Blair and Mr Bush found themselves in the dock answering charges of war crimes in Iraq, he replied: "Of course, that could be a possibility … whatever country joins the court can know that whoever commits a crime in their country could be prosecuted by me."

Human rights lawyers remain sceptical about whether charges will ever be brought.

Some Muslim countries have criticised what they claim is the court's reluctance to deal with offences committed by Western governments. Sudan has called for the court to investigate coalition actions in Iraq.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blair; bush; dhimmis; dhimmitude; eurabia; iraq; moonbats; muhammadsminions; thehague; un
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1 posted on 03/18/2007 11:05:49 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

So shall we simply quit wasting out time and bomb them now or wait for it?


2 posted on 03/18/2007 11:07:52 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Sudan has called for the court to investigate coalition actions in Iraq. One word for the Sudan: Darfur?

Now STFU!

3 posted on 03/18/2007 11:12:59 AM PDT by OneRatToGo
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To: MNJohnnie

Nuke 'em.


4 posted on 03/18/2007 11:13:46 AM PDT by AZLiberty (Tag to let -- 50 cents.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Wonder if this journalist is related to Neville? (end/sarcasm)


5 posted on 03/18/2007 11:16:38 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: West Coast Conservative

Tell the buttwipes in the International Criminal Court to get a life and go somewhere in a corner and Buzz off.


6 posted on 03/18/2007 11:18:44 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I will forgive Jane Fonda, when the Jews forgive Hitler.)
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7 posted on 03/18/2007 11:20:14 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations said that his country was actively considering signing up.

WTH? Or was the ambassador's words taken out of context?

8 posted on 03/18/2007 11:21:40 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: West Coast Conservative
There was a time when I would have rolled my eyes and said yeah, right.

And then US conservatives started supporting the impeachment of the president following a "for other reasons but it doesn't matter why...just get him out of there" line of logic.

IF that ends up happening here, I honestly can imagine Blair and Bush being sacrificed to the UN gods. These are treacherous times. We've got to be VERY careful what we wish for.

I think there is often a feeling around this place that if the American public could just stand at the edge of the precipice and see how deep the canyon is...they would run away from that precipice as quickly as possible. What that theory discounts is a the huge mob behind us pushing towards the precipice and the nearly unstoppable momentum that creates. The closer we get to that edge, the less time we have to convince that mob to quit pushing, or at least find safe passageway back through it. We need all the time we can get.

The bottom line is this is a dangerous foolhardy game conservatives are playing. Thinking through the consequences is essential. We won't like what we see when we are pushed over the edge and have no hope of return.

9 posted on 03/18/2007 11:31:08 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: West Coast Conservative

I have criticised what I claim is the court's reluctance to deal with offences committed by Islamist governments. I have called for the court to investigate Sudan's actions in Darfur.


10 posted on 03/18/2007 11:35:40 AM PDT by omega4179 (Unless you're telling me that John Edwards is gay....)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Why aren't they investigating the insurgents for possible war crimes - targeting civilians, dressing in police uniforms, setting consecutively timed bombs to kill responders to an initial attack, etc?


11 posted on 03/18/2007 11:48:29 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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TONY Blair could face the prospect of an International Criminal Court investigation for alleged coalition war crimes in Iraq......

...snicker...heady bastards, the ICC.....aren't they?

12 posted on 03/18/2007 11:51:28 AM PDT by B.O. Plenty (Give war a chance...)
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To: pollyannaish

Unfortunately, you are completely correct. And then there will be NO country in the world to fight evil. None. If our own president can be taken to an international court then no one in this country will EVER agree to another foreign intervention for any reason. Evil will reign supreme and the vacuum created by lack of American intervention will be filled by terrorists and worse.


13 posted on 03/18/2007 11:51:41 AM PDT by fschmieg
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'd like to see an investigation into who murdered Slobodan Milosevic.


14 posted on 03/18/2007 11:55:47 AM PDT by rickdylan
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To: fschmieg

Yep. You don't sacrifice your own team. Ever.

Sometimes, I think we stand so close to individual problems we miss the big picture. If we keep doing that, we're in real trouble.


15 posted on 03/18/2007 11:59:34 AM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: West Coast Conservative
"Sudan has called for the court to investigate coalition actions in Iraq."

Now, there is a country with a lot of credibility.
16 posted on 03/18/2007 11:59:57 AM PDT by Chgogal (Vote Al Qaeda. Vote Democrat.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Not the probe!


17 posted on 03/18/2007 12:00:01 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Overlooking my general feelings about the U.N.

No one is alleging war crime during the invasion itself. They are talking things that happened during the occupation,

This would set some kind of record to even bring charges given:

1. The U.S. has shown willingness (and in some cases to much enthusiasm) to prosecute rights violations

2. The U.N. has given us mandate to occupy and rebuild, a position that has been endorsed repeatedly by the Iraqi government.

>>
Last Updated: Tuesday, 8 November 2005, 19:03 GMT

UN extends mandate of Iraq troops

Iraq's president wants coalition forces to stay for now
The United Nations has extended the mandate of the US-led multinational forces in Iraq for another year.

The UN Security Council voted unanimously to extend the mandate to the end of 2006.

The US welcomed the vote as a sign of international commitment to the political transition in Iraq. <<

This article is from the BBC, not exactly a publication filled with pro-U.S. bias.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4419222.stm


18 posted on 03/18/2007 12:04:16 PM PDT by gondramB (It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark.)
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"Mr Moreno-Ocampo said it was frustrating that the court was viewed in the Arab world as biased in favour of the West."

So I guess Mr Moron-Ocampo will guarantee that the Western infidels will be found guilty in the spirit of fairness and to balance out the perceived bias?

It's a good thing we never signed onto the ICC.

19 posted on 03/18/2007 12:54:46 PM PDT by Psycheout (Sam Brownback. Principled. Conservative. Republican.)
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To: daybreakcoming

"Iraq's ambassador to the United Nations said that his country was actively considering signing up."

A poorly worded sentence. It implies that Iraq was signing up to press charges against the President. More likely Iraq is just trying to sign up to the "court" and nothing else.


20 posted on 03/18/2007 1:07:25 PM PDT by nypokerface
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