Extremely well articulated, Pissant.
Rudy's position - "...asked whether he (Giuliani) would support a ban on partial-birth abortions, he told CNN: "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position changing.""
Now Blackirish, since Rep Duncan Hunter is a co-sponsor of the PBA BAN legislation, I would invite you to back up your assertion the two men share common conviction on PBA.
If you think cursing at another poster makes an "articulate" debate....well
I've never done it and never will.
I reject the premise of your post.