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Live Thread - House Oversight and Government Reform Cmte. hearing (Valerie Plame Wilson Testifies)
Cspan ^ | March 16, 2007

Posted on 03/16/2007 5:55:58 AM PDT by Mo1

Edited on 03/16/2007 5:57:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

ON CAPITOL HILL Valerie Wilson Testifies

Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) chairs a House Oversight and Government Reform Ctme. hearing on the disclosure of CIA Agent Valerie Plame Wilson's identity. The hearing will look into whether White House officials followed appropriate procedures for safeguarding the identity of Ms. Wilson.

FRIDAY, C-SPAN AT 10AM ET


TOPICS: Breaking News
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To: Howlin
Then why was no one charged with outing her?

I think it has to be a knowing and intentional disclosure of someone you know to be a "covert" agent. The CIA guy, Grenier, when he disclosed her name failed to tell anyone she was "covert." I know it was Grenier who told the WH about her. I am not sure how Armitage learned of her though. Anyone?

Anyway, the Republican congressman on the committee kept stressing that the CIA failed to protect her when they disclosed her name without mentioning her status.

701 posted on 03/16/2007 9:26:15 AM PDT by redgirlinabluestate
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To: Howlin
Why is Waxman talking?
Is he not going to let Victoria to give an opening statement like the other 2 did?
702 posted on 03/16/2007 9:27:23 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Howlin
"Well, why don't you ping Jim Robinson and get him to ban all of us who care more about the country than we do a single issue?"

ABORTION

HOMOSEXUAL-AGENDA

OPEN BORDERS

ANTI-GUN

I guess you consider all these one single issue. That "single issue" mantra is a dead giveaway of liberal sentiments.

703 posted on 03/16/2007 9:29:04 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: redgirlinabluestate

Of course, those with a security clearance are under an obligation to ensure that information they are disseminating to persons without a clearance is not classified, before they share the information. But the fault isn't theirs for failing to do so, it is the fault of someone else for not doing that for them.


704 posted on 03/16/2007 9:29:11 AM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: Mo1

Sadly I think we know the answer to that.


705 posted on 03/16/2007 9:29:12 AM PDT by saveliberty (The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop. - PJ O'Rourke)
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To: lugsoul

Free-dame: According to the official Senate investigation, what Wilson wrote in the NYTimes was not true. He reported something different to the CIA, making his op-ed not a leak and thus not illegal.

Lugsoul: Not exactly, though it gets cast that way a lot, especially here. The Committee as a whole did not issue that part of the report. Those conclusions are from a minority report, and are disputed by others.

You're a liar, Lugsoul. That was from the main report of the panel.

Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission (washingtonpost.com)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html


706 posted on 03/16/2007 9:29:40 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Godebert

Go away


707 posted on 03/16/2007 9:29:53 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Sam Hill
"One fact you will never hear brought up is that when Plame was having an affair with a married man (Joe Wilson) she was committing an egregious security violation. That is often enough in itself to get you bounced from the agency. In fact, it is probably the most common reason for people being kicked out of the agency."

That, and the fact that she broke her super-duper top secret "cover" to him on one of their initial dates..... did she promptly report to here superiors the fact that SHE had compromised her super-secret identity with a married man with whom she was having an affair? A man who just happened to be married to a French spy.........
708 posted on 03/16/2007 9:29:54 AM PDT by Enchante (Joe Wilson: "DUH...What do you mean there is uranium smuggling from DR Congo?")
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To: Godebert

You're watching the Dems run Congress because Republicans would rather fight each other than win.


709 posted on 03/16/2007 9:30:25 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Hillary - the Empty Pants Suit)
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To: mass55th
Actually, she admitted that she was switched to a job with commensurate rank, she only climed she didn't get to do exactly what she might have wanted to do in the future. That she might have returned to covert when the kids grew up.

Now that is important, compared to the war, nuke bombs, and all that silly stuff. This woman is screaming "It's all about me,me,me!"

710 posted on 03/16/2007 9:30:26 AM PDT by Williams
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To: roses of sharon

re: If she was covert the CIA would NEVER have allowed Wilson to write that oped exposing her, nor would they have let her parade around doing pics, dinners, and interviews.

We need to find out who her co-horts are, the other traitors in the CIA, and expose them!

I hope you have a lot of time... it's a huge web destined to make you fear for your country:

The Coming Storm - Rep. William Jefferson - Jefferson, Wilson, Clinton and the tenacles of corruption
Clarice Feldman has a new article out on American Thinker and kindly links yours truly as well, here, where I spoke of the real story behind the story. No comment necessary - Clarice covers well. One point: This man of Nigeria - who's wife the FBI nailed, could be the key.

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2006/07/plame-game-over.html

Wilson Jefferson Investments Africa almoudi
http://www.americanthinker.com/2006/07/the_african_connection_rep_jef.html

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2006/05/coming-storm-rep-william-jefferson-iii.html

http://www.atikuabubakar.net/
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The Disgrace of Patrick Fitzgerald (Today, Steyn)
http://www.suntimes.com/news/steyn/291111,CST-EDT-steyn11.article


** Loaded Links
NSA - The Leak Investigation Begins
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/nsa-leak-investigation-begins.html


Calling Mr. Fitzgerald?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/calling-mr-fitzgerald.html

Where Goest Thou Rocky?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/where-goest-thou-rocky.html

The Leaks Go On......The Leaks go on....
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/leaks-go-onthe-leaks-go-on.html

Rocke-Treason-Gate II
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/rocke-treason-gate-ii.html

Daschle - Kershuffle
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/daschle-kershuffle.html

Macsmind call for Senator Jay Rockefeller to Resign from the Senate Intelligence Committe Now
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/macsmind-call-for-senator-jay.html

Hey Rocky, How'd They Know?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/hey-rocky-howd-they-know.html

Plame Game - Forest for the Trees (Or something like that!)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-forest-for-trees-or.html

And.....? Bush Eavesdropping, Kerry Connections
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/and.html

Plame Game -Paging Mr. Cooper? Mr. Matt Cooper???
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-paging-mr-cooper-mr-matt.html

Plame Game - Missing the Story
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-missing-story.html

Bye! Don't forget your broom!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/bye-dont-forget-your-broom.html

*Plame Game - "Don't let the screen door hit you..."
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-dont-let-screen-door-hit.html

Plame Game: The 'Niger-gate' farse they would sell uranium to the devil?)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-niger-gate-farse.html

*Plame Game - "Lets Dig Deep!"
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-lets-dig-deep.html

Plame Game - The Doors are Coming off the Langley Express
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-doors-are-coming-off.html

Plame Game - Breakfast at Kristof's
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/plame-game-breakfast-at-kristofs.html

*Plame Game - Wrath of Khan - Allah's Cloud
(Covers 1999 trip)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-wrath-of-khan-allahs-cloud.html

Larry Johnson... Plame Link
Able Danger - General Shelton Speaks - Says...something....
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/able-danger-general-shelton-speaks.html

Sheesh, more connex to Val's pals?
Khaled el-Masri Victim? Not so fast...
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/khaled-el-masri-victim-not-so-fast.html

Slip of the VIPS Sinks Ships - II
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/slip-of-vips-sinks-ships-ii.html

Careful what you ask for Senator Rockefeller
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/careful-what-you-ask-for-senator.html

*Plame Game - Wrath of Khan - Allah's Cloud
(1999 trip)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-wrath-of-khan-allahs-cloud.html

Plame Game - Deep in the DNC 'Doo-Doo'
(Mentions Oil for Food)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-deep-in-dnc-doo-doo.html

**Plame Game - The Real Game
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-real-game.html

Plame Game - The Magical Mystical Andrea Mitchell Tour
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-magical-mystical-andrea.html

Woodward's Surprise Source? Not so fast
Enter Armitage
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/woodwards-surprise-source-not-so-fast.html

**Plame Game - The Start of the Game
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-start-of-game.html

Wha? Who? Dig.
Plame Game - Downing/Bush Guard Copy Memo Meister Michael Smith speaks!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-downingbush-guard-copy-memo.html

Plame Game - Crumbling from Within
(When everyone thought he was wrapping up)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-crumbling-from-within.html

Woodward's Surprise Source
A Graph!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/woodwards-surprise-source.html

Plame Game - Wilson's 'Green Room' Rebuttal
Vallely
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-wilsons-green-room-rebuttal.html

Plame Game - Following the Money Trail to Niger
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-following-money-trail-to.html

Plame Game - Bob Woodward - Is there ANYBODY who didn't know about Plame?
Handy links for retrial
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-bob-woodward-is-there.html

Plame Game - Inside the Head (and motives) of Ray McGovern
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-inside-head-and-motives-of.html

Plame Game - 'Uncle Ray' on CSPAN

Alright regular readers, it's Open Comment Monday. This week we have Ray McGovern firing shots today on CSPAN. Two shows: Ray McGovern, Fmr. CIA Analyst Ray McGovern, Former CIA Analyst, discusses the CIA under Peter Goss's leadership and the debate over CIA leaks. 11/14/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 45 min. and guess who he appears with here? Washington Journal Entire Program Walter Pincus, National Reporter, The Washington Post Ronald Kessler, Author, "Inside the CIA" Ray McGovern, Former CIA Analyst (1963-90) 11/14/2005: WASHINGTON, DC: 3 hr. Why am I NOT suprised?

CSPAN: http://www.c-span.org/Search/advanced.asp?AdvancedQueryText=ray+mcgovern&StartDateMonth=&StartDateYear=&EndDateMonth=&EndDateYear=&Series=&ProgramIssue=&QueryType=&QueryTextOptions=&ResultCount=10&SortBy=bestmatch

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-uncle-ray-on-cspan.html


*Plame Game -MacRanger Debunking the Left Again!
Includes Dem Quotes re: Iraq
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-macranger-debunking-left.html

***Plame Game - Kristof - What did he know - when did he know it?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-kristof-what-did-he-know.html

***Plame Game - "Dishonest Joe" (NR article/forgeries)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-dishonest-joe.html

****Plame Game - Curious Musings
(OKC links/third terrorist/agencies/Jayna)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-curious-musings.html

Plame Game - Jed Babbin confronts 'Leisure Suit Larry'
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-jed-babbin-confronts.html

Wilson and the Anti Semites (EPIC)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/wilson-and-anti-semites.html

****Plame Game - About that 1.8 Tons of Uranium
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-about-that-18-tons-of.html

*****Plame Game - Brent Scowcroft - More dots to connect (FR Fedora mention)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-brent-scowcroft-more-dots.html

Plame Game - Kristof and the VIPS on the same script?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-kristof-and-vips-on-same.html

Plame Game - "Spooky Business"
Reuel Marc Gerecht/Former CIA
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-spooky-business.html

***Plame Game - Following Yellow Cake Road
The French Connection
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-following-yellow-cake-road.html

***Plame Game - You Shall Know the Truth.....
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-you-shall-know-truth.html

*****Plame Game - "How about some French Cream on the Yellow Cake?"
COEGMA/Oil for Food link/France/Africa (1999/5 mention)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-how-about-some-french-cream.html

***Plame Game - VIPS Ray McGovern and the Niger Lie
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-vips-ray-mcgovern-and-niger.html

***The VIPS Plame Game - Niger Document Farce
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/vips-plame-game-niger-document-farce.html

***Plame Game - Final Assault
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-final-assault.html

***Plame Game - Touching a Nerve
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-touching-nerve.html


















tech wilson video page
http://technorati.com/videos/tag/joe+wilson





Correspondence, Comments:

Wilson said Kristof, Spencer Ackman New Rep., or his article didn't say VP sent him per this video?

http://technorati.com/search/http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2F%3Fv%3Dt7rViZ2ywCA

He keeps saying rove and libby, but not ari, armitage, powell or andy card... why? armitage and powell wanted a post with the kerry camp... so did Joe, and they worked for him.
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Read the rest. Just a re-note on Harlow. I told you back here he was full of crap as the suggestion that he had to "hang up" with Novak and call him back on Plame,

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/07/wider-net-wider-misreporting.html

when all he had to do was put her name into the computer on his desk. Well like a lot of this made up story, I'll tell you now that this case hasn't a chance of getting near any jury, but then again it wasn't intended to. UPDATE: In case we forgot, there was a time when Joe thought the Iraq War was a good idea.
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/10/plame-game-what-happened-joe.html

The age old question - "What changed"? I think that picture is beginning to come together.
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/10/plame-game-what-happened-joe-part-ii.html

Wilson is a liar, but the funny part is that he's not even close to a bad one

China Gate - It's Never Too Late!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/china-gate-its-never-too-late.html

Plame Game - "Psss, hey buddy, want to buy some Genu-ine Nigerian Documents?"
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-psss-hey-buddy-want-to-buy.html

Plame Game - The REAL Story is a Slam Dunk!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-real-story-is-slam-dunk.html



In case you're wondering... this is linked to AD and intel links as well (all the way to COEGMA and Oil for Food), a lot of the same players and CSIS, EPIC and VIPS as well as the press. If you don't get mad at all the links... I'll dig and post my graphs of connections i've found.


Able Danger - Let the Hearings Begin?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/able-danger-let-hearings-begin.html

Able Danger - Data-mining, Atta, and a Blue Dress
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/able-danger-data-mining-atta-and-blue.html

Able Danger - One Big "F Minus" for the Omission Commission Clowns
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/able-danger-one-big-f-minus-for.html

Enter Priest, Pincus, Leaks
What is Important
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/what-is-important.html

Able Danger - It was a Great Summer Story - 12
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/able-danger-it-was-great-summer-story.html

*Able Danger - Pulling Back the Covers of the real Clinton Legacy
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/able-danger-pulling-back-covers-of.html

Atta In Prague - The Truth and the MSM continual war to supress it
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/atta-in-prague-truth-and-msm-continual.html

Richard Cohen, a very useful idiot
(Also a Plameite)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/richard-cohen-very-useful-idiot.html

Able Danger - Let's Get to the Truth
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/able-danger-lets-get-to-truth.html

Yeah Senator Graham, what did you know?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/yeah-senator-graham-what-did-you-know.html


Domestic Spying? Keep up the Good Work! VIPS Alert!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/12/domestic-spying-keep-up-good-work.html

The Beat Goes on: More Democratic Amnesia
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/beat-goes-on-more-democratic-amnesia.html

Because We Forget - Macsmind will remind
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/because-we-forget-macsmind-will-remind.html

How the Dems change...
Macsmind - Fair and Balanced (apologies to Fox)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/macsmind-fair-and-balanced-apologies.html


Remember, if AD comes out, not only do the Iraq/AQ come out, but ChinaGate and the Clinton irresponsibility will be known... which will lead to the agencies and other coverups.

Able Danger - Hearings Finally - But!...
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/able-danger-hearings-finally-but.html

Is the lid about to be blown off Able Danger?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/is-lid-about-to-be-blown-off-able.html

Able Danger - The Ramp Up!
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/able-danger-ramp-up.html


Saddam AlQ Linked VDH
Secular Nonsense
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/secular-nonsense_113318294987632552.html

Plame Game - Rush to War? Think Again
****
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/plame-game-rush-to-war-think-again.html

It wasn't just about "Yellow Cake"
(Why we went into Iraq)
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/it-wasnt-just-about-yellow-cake.html

The Rockefeller Treason Trip
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/rockefeller-treason-trip.html

Senator Rockefeller and the Plan
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/senator-rockefeller-and-plan.html

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Rockefeller losing it on FNS
http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/11/14/rockefeller/
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Rocka-Treason-Gate
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/rocka-treason-gate.html

Senator Rockefeller - Treason?
http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/senator-rockefeller-treason.html

Forgot about this: Russert, Powell jumps the shark
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/tim-russert-democrat-stooge/

http://macsmind.blogspot.com/2005/11/little-russ-showing-his-true-side.html


711 posted on 03/16/2007 9:30:49 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Stop Global Dhimming. Demand testicular fortitude from the hill. Call the crusade.)
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To: smoothsailing
American Thinker bump.

Will our reps ever learn the power they could derive from the intelligence on some web sites? Sadly, they are too busy bloviating, partying and fund raising, IMHO

712 posted on 03/16/2007 9:31:12 AM PDT by Freee-dame
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To: Txsleuth; All
Good morning.
"Yes...she DID say within the last 5 years."

I should turn and listen closer.

No, I probably don't need to.

Michael Frazier
713 posted on 03/16/2007 9:31:16 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: AmericanMade1776
She looks like Susan Estrich's prettier sister.
714 posted on 03/16/2007 9:31:49 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: saveliberty

Waxman is trolling for Impeachment


715 posted on 03/16/2007 9:32:02 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: redgirlinabluestate

"I think it has to be a knowing and intentional disclosure of someone you know to be a "covert" agent."

That is correct. The whole point of the legislation was to go after people like Agee -- and the people at "Covert Weekly" (or whatever it was called), which was a Cuban/Communist front organization who wanted to "out" all CIA covert agents so that they could be killed.


716 posted on 03/16/2007 9:32:26 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Cecily

I'm sure Hollywood would love to give her an Oscar for those dramatic looks


717 posted on 03/16/2007 9:33:31 AM PDT by Mo1 ( http://www.gohunter08.com)
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To: Howlin
He let them stay in there?

What, toss out the paying customers before the second act even starts?

718 posted on 03/16/2007 9:33:43 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: The above post may contain sarcasm... if unsure, please remember to use all precautions)
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To: popdonnelly
Good morning.
"What about Senator "Leaky" Leahy?"

Val must have been undercover so deep that she missed that.

Michael Frazier
719 posted on 03/16/2007 9:33:59 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: Howlin

At least not until someone breaks into your house while you are there, and threatens to kill you, torture, you, or worse, but your neighbor and his uzzi shows up and kills him before he can have his way with your family members.

Then you will probably not be so upset about the guy living next door to you any more.


720 posted on 03/16/2007 9:34:55 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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