Posted on 03/16/2007 5:55:58 AM PDT by Mo1
Edited on 03/16/2007 5:57:55 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
ON CAPITOL HILL Valerie Wilson Testifies
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) chairs a House Oversight and Government Reform Ctme. hearing on the disclosure of CIA Agent Valerie Plame Wilson's identity. The hearing will look into whether White House officials followed appropriate procedures for safeguarding the identity of Ms. Wilson.
FRIDAY, C-SPAN AT 10AM ET
Yes they are. And you are right. We need to be very precise with language. I have become quite the pest on the Gen. Pace says homosexuality is immoral threads (those here are on his side, quite naturally), pointing out that he called homosexual ACTS immoral. He did not say that being a homosexual is in itself immoral.
It is much more important that that those who speak to the press and go on tv correct these incorrect statements everytime they are made. It's more important than their own talking points.
Delegates are members of the House of Representatives. They are therefore called Congressmen.
Yep and technically .. yes she was covert .. once upon a time
Waxman didn't want VT to even bring up the " under the statute" part
I've mentioned this several times before. The intel agencies have better things to do than to be constantly monitoring and changing people's personnel files.
A person who was "covert" at some point (whether under official cover, which is what Plame probably was -- or non-official cover (which is very rare) would retain that simply through inertia.
The IIPA was originally intended to protect intel officers working undercover in the field. (That is, overseas.) The people who were outing them at Covert Action Quarterly didn't dream that they could get them killed at home. (Those were different times.)
As Toensing said, originally the law was to only cover those overseas. Then, because officers can be rotated home, it was extended to those who had been "stationed" overseas for three and then finally five years.
Plame was not covert under the law. She was covert because the blue-haired ladies in "human resources" were too lazy to make her "non-covert."
You are so right to do that.
I remember conversations with my mother back in the 60's, after Vatican II, over whether homosexuals could become priests.
She contended that they could. Because they would be bound by vows of celibacy just as heterosexual men would be. To 'be' something, to have an inclination toward a specific type of behavior is very different from *acting* on that behavior.
Well, the priest thing didn't work too well, since the vow of celibacy was violated.
That's what Pace was talking about. To have the inclination is immaterial under DADT. Acting on it is immoral, just as sleeping with another service man's wife is immoral.
The activists seem to be talking about turning the military into a traveling San Francisco orgy. And the General is right to speak out against that.
Sorry to be so off topic.
They do that where they would normally refer to a Representative as a Rep. But she isn't a Representative. She is a Delegate.
Thanks, the Real fifi.
Did you see my post above, about Victoria trying valiantly to clarify the use of this term, and Waxman trying to muzzle her every attempt?
LOL Great pic!
We need your pings and clear thinking! How else will the rest of us get through this.
And if we're lucky and avoid a Dem president, then we'll have another 4 years to get through. Not sure if that is good news or bad news. :-/
Yeppers....I noticed that, but the MSM won't..dems won't...and regular Americans that get their news from the MSM and Hairball will NEVER know the difference....sadly.
You signed up just to ask that question?
Toensing was using the word in the only way that the law has so far defined it.
AFAIK, it is not even a term of art at the CIA. You are simply working with official or non-official cover. And when you are not under either of those, you are not.
Today's hearing also suggests to me that they worked hard to get her name out there, while putting Bush fingerprints on the process, just to use this law as they twisted and mutilated it to make it useful for their nefarious purposes.
This whole thing in contrived from the get-go.
And I'm sure they're seeding Washington with other non-scandal scandals, just in case this one comes crashing down around them.
One freebie for the potential troll:
No, I'm saying that Victoria was pointing out the careful parsing that they (Plame, Wilson, Waxman, etc.) were engaged in to twist the definition of 'covert' to their purpose.
Welcome to all of our new friends....
"Today's hearing also suggests to me that they worked hard to get her name out there, while putting Bush fingerprints on the process, just to use this law as they twisted and mutilated it to make it useful for their nefarious purposes."
Joe Wilson "outed" his wife at the very latest when he attended a Democrat Senate Policy meeting on May 2, 2003.
That same meeting was attended by Nicolas Kristof of the New York Times. Two days later, Wilson and Plame had breakfast with Kristof.
Then Kristof wrote the first article anywhere about Wilson's mission. He had surely been told about Plame, to give Wilson's story more credibility.
Wilson never had any complaints about Bush's SOTU address, until after that meeting with the Senate Democrats. And later, Wilson said he began to work for the Kerry campaign in May 2003.
This isn't too complicated if you keep that timeline in mind.
When And Where Joseph Wilson Changed His Story | Sweetness & Light
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