[pissant]

Or, I'm guessing, those who clearly annunciate them, but you don't agree with their views. Bush's objective is to turn two hostile states in the muslim world into domocratic allies, which he has done. The purpose for staying after the toppling of the hostile regimes is to give those allied gov'ts the ability to stand on their own two feet.

Reasoned arguments can be made that it is bad policy, but you cannot convince me the objective is not clear.

[Alberta's Child]

Your point might be valid with regard to Afghanistan, and perhaps even in terms of our relationship to Pakistan -- but not with regard to Iraq.

Since this administration had every intention of invading Iraq long before 9/11, its relationship to some nebulous "war on terror" has never really been objectively established at all.