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Giuliani's Pre-9/11 Record Should Erase Rightest Doubts
Hunan Events ^ | 3/16/07 | Deroy Murdock

Posted on 03/16/2007 5:05:33 AM PDT by areafiftyone

The same Beltway experts who declared Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.) the GOP frontrunner, even as he under-polled fellow presidential contender Rudolph W. Giuliani, now parrot equally dodgy concepts. When Republicans meet “the real Rudy,” they will abandon New York’s former mayor like cattle fleeing a burning barn. Then, the wobbly Washington wisdom continues, Giuliani’s three marriages, and his less-than-solidly right-wing views on gays, guns, and gametes will torpedo his buoyant presidential hopes.

These seers now detect unhappiness with the GOP aspirants. They cite a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll in which 26% of Republican primary voters were dissatisfied with Giuliani, McCain, and former Massachusetts governor Willard Mitt Romney, among others. However, 56% called these choices satisfactory. This mirrors the 57%of conservative Republicans who preferred Giuliani, versus 31% for McCain. More broadly, Republicans backed Giuliani 38% to McCain’s 24, former House speaker Newt Gingrich’s 10, Romney’s 8, and 2% each for Kansas Senator Sam Brownback and former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee.

But what if voters like Giuliani better upon understanding his pre-9-11 performance? Educating Republicans on his complete mayoral record -- and soon -- may be Giuliani’s best bet for extinguishing lingering grumbling about his candidacy.

I recently visited Baltimore, Charlotte, Richmond, Salem, Oregon; Seattle, and Johnstown, Pennsylvania, mainly to deliver speeches sponsored by Young America’s Foundation. I conversed with conservative activists, College Republican leaders, university professors, and think-tank scholars, among others.

These Americans vividly remember Giuliani emerging from the ashes of September 11, like a latter-day Churchill rising from the rubble of the London Blitz. However, these involved and informed citizens knew startlingly little about Giuliani’s other mayoral achievements:

Beyond these socially conservative victories, Giuliani governed as a Reaganesque supply-sider:
Rudy got this done thanks largely to a management style that he described Wednesday at a $2 million Manhattan fundraiser: “I’m impatient and single-minded about my goals.”

Giuliani’s legacy has earned the endorsements of such screaming liberals as President Bush’s former solicitor general, Ted Olson, Sen. David Vitter (R.-La.), and Rep. Pete Sessions (R.-Tex.) -- both proud owners of 100% ratings from the National Right to Life Committee.

Before Giuliani’s enemies caricature him as a divorce-driven, abortion-peddling, gun-grabbing transvestite, he should familiarize Republicans with his mayoral accomplishments. From Westwood to Washington’s echo chamber, Rudy Giuliani and his supporters should specify how he rescued America’s largest left-wing city through Reaganite social and economic reforms.


Mr. Murdock, a New York-based commentator to HUMAN EVENTS, is a columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and a media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University.


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KEYWORDS: electionpresident; elections; giuliani; rudy
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Before Giuliani’s enemies caricature him as a divorce-driven, abortion-peddling, gun-grabbing transvestite,

ROFLMAO!! He sure does read Free Republic! LOL!

1 posted on 03/16/2007 5:05:37 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((((((RUDY PING))))


2 posted on 03/16/2007 5:06:04 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: zot; Interesting Times; SeraphimApprentice

Guiliani ping


3 posted on 03/16/2007 5:07:15 AM PDT by GreyFriar ( 3rd Armored Division - Spearhead)
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To: areafiftyone

Conservatives who are attacking Rudy unwittingly are helping the Dems and smoothing the way for a Hillary or Obama presidency, because Rudy is the only one beating the Dems. The Democrats know that and they are using the divide and conquer strategy. Nearly all MSM articles about Rudy start out with almost those caricature pictures.

If the Republicans nominate anyone other than Rudy, we WILL have a Dem president. Heil Fuhrer Hillary. Apparently some conservatives are happy with that.


Giuliani Leads Hillary, Obama in 2008 Race


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1801785/posts


4 posted on 03/16/2007 5:10:31 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: areafiftyone
Caricature? The truth is hardly a characture. Rudy spoke to NARAL. Twice. He has been divorced. Twice. I don't think he's a transvesite, but it was stupid of him to dress in drag. Twice.

And regarding the gun-grabbing, he did that much more than twice. He pushed for federal gun control laws after the Empire State Building shooting in 1997, took guns away from long-term permit holders and sued gun manufacturers.

The gun-grabbing, pro-abort divorced shoe fits, Deroy. Maybe if you would remove your lips from Rudy's backside for a few seconds, you'd be able to see that.

5 posted on 03/16/2007 5:12:23 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: areafiftyone; Admin Moderator
ROFLMAO!! He sure does read Free Republic! LOL!

But apparently you don't, or don't remember what you read yesterday.

DUPLICATE.

Meet the Real Rudy - Deroy Murdock

PINGED to the RUDY list by areafiftyone at post 12, in case someone notes the title was different.

Why have the same discussion today we had yesterday?

6 posted on 03/16/2007 5:19:02 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FairOpinion
Conservatives who are attacking Rudy unwittingly are helping the Dems and smoothing the way for a Hillary

Of course they are. They are so blinded by their hate that they would actually (out of spite) rather have Hillary as the president just to say "See look what I did just to spite Rudy". Then when she does something they don't like they have no one to blame but themselves when they start howling and crying.

7 posted on 03/16/2007 5:19:39 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: FairOpinion

Only Hillary is conservative enough for some people.


8 posted on 03/16/2007 5:19:44 AM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: areafiftyone

Of course, they would blame supporters of Rudy for President Hillary, even though they were the ones who got Hillary elected by staying home.


9 posted on 03/16/2007 5:20:55 AM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Is this the same article? I didn't realize that. If it's a duplicate they can delete it.


10 posted on 03/16/2007 5:21:00 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: LtdGovt

LOL! They can blame us all they want. I know who I will vote for and it will be whomever wins the Republican nomination.


11 posted on 03/16/2007 5:22:37 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: FairOpinion
At this point in the race there are more important issues than winning. Rudy is a New York City Liberal, and saying that he isn't 12 gazillion times does not change him one bit.

If we were so stupid as to believe things simply because they were being said and re-said to us as often as possible, we'd all be Democrats.

12 posted on 03/16/2007 5:25:17 AM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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To: areafiftyone
I would have thought the tortured sentence structure, metaphors, and alliteration of the first paragraph would have been a giveaway:

The same Beltway experts who declared Sen. John McCain (R.-Ariz.) the GOP frontrunner, even as he under-polled fellow presidential contender Rudolph W. Giuliani, now parrot equally dodgy concepts. When Republicans meet “the real Rudy,” they will abandon New York’s former mayor like cattle fleeing a burning barn. Then, the wobbly Washington wisdom continues, Giuliani’s three marriages, and his less-than-solidly right-wing views on gays, guns, and gametes will torpedo his buoyant presidential hopes.

I couldn't soon forget "gays, guns, and gametes", much less "wobbly Washington wisdom".

I also remembered laughing at the "less-than-solidly right-wing". It was like looking at a pot of boiling water and describing it as "less-then-completely-frozen".

13 posted on 03/16/2007 5:27:28 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: areafiftyone

BTW, I flagged the multiple posts about Giuliani's ties to Venezuela yesterday -- I don't have time to have these talks once per article, much less 4-5. Nothing personal.


14 posted on 03/16/2007 5:28:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: FairOpinion
If the Republicans nominate anyone other than Rudy, we WILL have a Dem president.

I don't think this is necessarily true
15 posted on 03/16/2007 5:28:55 AM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: tcostell
Rudy is a New York City Liberal, and saying that he isn't 12 gazillion times does not change him one bit.

Your impeccable, unassailable argument has changed my mind. If you say that he's a NYC liberal, that must be true. No question about it. I will no longer support Rudy.
16 posted on 03/16/2007 5:29:05 AM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I understand completely. Thank you for pointing it out. The problem is the columnists keep posting their column under a different title on different websites. Makes it difficult to do a search.


17 posted on 03/16/2007 5:30:39 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: YellowRoseofTx; FairOpinion
I don't think this is necessarily true

Not necessarily, of course. Even Duncan Hunter would have a 0.01% chance of winning the general election. However, while Rudy has a good shot at the presidency, if nominated, the others don't.
18 posted on 03/16/2007 5:30:50 AM PDT by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: areafiftyone
Good post ping. At this point, Rudy's biggest asset is his 8 point lead against Hillary. So long as that holds, the nomination will be his for the taking.

If he gets elected with the help of social conservatives, they will have some say in his administration, perhaps stopping a Harriet Miers type nomination. If the social conservatives bail, he can just ignore them like Ahnold has in California and rule as a social liberal, in which case they will be powerless to place any obstacles to the baby killing.

It's up to them, really. The religious right has so marginalized themselves politically at this point they cannot stop a Giuliani nomination or presidency. The only question left is whether they want to have any influence at all.

19 posted on 03/16/2007 5:30:57 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: YellowRoseofTx

"I don't think this is necessarily true"

There are certainly no guarantees, but Rudy has the best probably to beat the Dems.

The Clinton machine will roll over any of the other Republican candidates and I don't see a magical Republican "superman" rising.


20 posted on 03/16/2007 5:31:47 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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