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Michael Crichton Debates Global Warming Wednesday 03/14/2007
Intelligence Squared.org ^ | March 14, 2007 | Event Staff

Posted on 03/15/2007 9:35:38 AM PDT by Matchett-PI

NOTE: I don't know if this is on Youtube yet, or not]

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 Global warming is not a crisis

Speaking for the motion: Michael Crichton, Richard S. Lindzen, Philip Stott Speaking against the motion: Brenda Ekwurzel, Gavin Schmidt, Richard C.J. Somerville Moderator: Brian Lehrer

SOLD OUT MODERATOR:

Brian Lehrer is host of the highly-acclaimed “Brian Lehrer Show” heard weekday mornings on WNYC® New York Public Radio®, 820 AM, 93.9 FM and wnyc.org. He is also an award-winning author and documentary producer. Lehrer holds masters degrees in journalism and public health/environmental sciences.

SPEAKERS FOR THE MOTION: Michael Crichton is a writer and filmmaker, best known as the author ofJurassicPark and the creator of "ER." Crichton graduated summa cum laude from Harvard College, received his MD from Harvard Medical School, and was a postdoctoral fellow at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies. He has been a visiting instructor at Cambridge University and MIT. Crichton's 2004 bestseller, State of Fear, challenged extreme anthropogenic warming scenarios.

Richard S. Lindzen, the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Sciences at MIT since 1983, previously held professorships at Harvard, where he received his A.B., S.M. and Ph.D., and the University of Chicago. He is a member of the National Academy of Sciences and the recipient of various awards. He is the author or co-author of three books and over 200 papers. His current research is on climate sensitivity, atmospheric convection and the general circulation of the atmosphere.

Philip Stott is an Emeritus Professor and biogeographer from the University of London, UK. Although a scientist, for the past ten years he has also employed modern techniques of deconstruction to grand environmental narratives, like “global warming.” Stott was editor of the internationally-important Journal of Biogeography for 18 years. He broadcasts widely on TV and radio, and writes regularly on environmental issues for The Times of London , among other publications.

SPEAKERS AGAINST THE MOTION: Brenda Ekwurzel works on the national climate program at the Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS). Prior to joining UCS, she was on the faculty of the University of Arizona. Doctorate research was at Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory of Columbia University and post-doctoral research at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California.

Gavin Schmidt is a climate scientist at the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York. His publications include studies of past, present and potential future climates. Scientific American cited him as a top 50 Research Leader in 2004, and he has worked on education and outreach with the American Museum of Natural History, the College de France and the New York Academy of Sciences, among others. He is a contributing editor at RealClimate.org.

Richard C.J. Somerville is Distinguished Professor at Scripps Institution of Oceanography, University of California, San Diego. He is a theoretical meteorologist and an expert on computer simulations of the atmosphere. Among many honors, Somerville is a Fellow of both the American Association for the Advancement of Science and the American Meteorological Society. He has received awards for both his research and his popular book, The Forgiving Air: Understanding Environmental Change

Wednesday, March 14, 2007 Asia Society and Museum, 725 Park Avenue at 70th Street, New York City Reception 6:00 p.m. Debate 6:45 p.m. Finish 8:30 p.m [snip]


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; energy; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; michaelcrichton
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To: Matchett-PI
From Gavin Schmidt:
I'm quite looking forward to this, but I have to admit to conflicting thoughts. Does participating help perpetuate the idea that global warming per se is still up for debate? Is this kind of rhetorical jousting useful for clarifying issues of science that most people there will only superficially grasp? Can this be entertaining and educational? Or does it just validate the least serious opposition? Is it simply a waste of time that would be better spent blogging?

What arrogance. He believes that the question is settled; that global warming is a fait accompli and man is the cause. Therefore it is a waste of time to even discuss it because it takes away from doing more useful work. Besides, in his opinion, the mind of the common man cannot grasp the details.

Hillary talks about the vast right-wing conspiracy, but the global warming conspiracy is much more obvious and the leftist, one-world government radicals are behind it.

21 posted on 03/15/2007 10:25:06 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Grampa Dave

Brilliant cartoon Dave, my colleagues are now wondering why I am laughing.


22 posted on 03/15/2007 10:25:15 AM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: Matchett-PI

Bump.


23 posted on 03/15/2007 10:26:38 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Grampa Dave
Excellent program. I downloaded the best quality video early on (before it was yanked) and am buring it to CD's to give to friends and co-workers.

BTW, this is a better quality video:

The Great Global Warming Swindle

24 posted on 03/15/2007 10:32:18 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: agooga
Algore is the one who earned himself that reputation, but Gavin inexplicably said this: "..Stott has a touch of the revivalist preacher about him. .."


25 posted on 03/15/2007 10:33:28 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Matchett-PI

realclimate.org is a website setup by Michael Mann after McIntyre and McKitrick ripped his "hockey stick" to shreds.

M&M have their own website over here: http://www.climateaudit.org/

and the history of their paper debunking the hockey stick is available here

http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/trc.html


What M&M are doing is digging into the fundamental data and asking questions of the AGW crowd. Really difficult stuff like

1. Please publish the full dataset you used.

2. Please publish the computer programs you used to generate the results.

and the AGW crowd refuse....which makes them non-scientists in my mind.


26 posted on 03/15/2007 10:33:38 AM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: CedarDave

Thanks for the link. If you find a video of this debate anywhere, please link it here, also, will you? Thanks!


27 posted on 03/15/2007 10:35:33 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: alnitak

Thanks!


28 posted on 03/15/2007 10:36:38 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: CedarDave
That is the same link, I have been using for a few days.

Now I'm calling it the Great Gorebull Warming Swindle.

The Great Gorebull Warming Swindle

29 posted on 03/15/2007 10:42:15 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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To: CedarDave; Grampa Dave; xcamel

Here's another great video:

Video on Fox and friends 3/14/07

Click here http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html and scroll down to the "Shows" catagory then click on the Chris Horner video entitled Inconvenient Truth? Is Al Gore cashing in on carbon credit scheme?


30 posted on 03/15/2007 10:42:40 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Matchett-PI

bookmark


31 posted on 03/15/2007 10:46:52 AM PDT by Chena
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To: CedarDave; jsh3180
"What arrogance. He believes that the question is settled; that global warming is a fait accompli and man is the cause. Therefore it is a waste of time to even discuss it because it takes away from doing more useful work. Besides, in his opinion, the mind of the common man cannot grasp the details."

Proverbs 18:17 says that the first to plead his case always seem right until another comes to examine him.

See post #6: "I found the results of the debate vote....the GW skeptics won!!

Last night, NPR and intelligence squared hosted a debate in New York City on the motion "Global Warming is not a Crisis." The proposition, Michael Crichton, Prof. Richard Lindzen and Prof. Philip Stott, won by 46% to 42%. What makes the performance all the more impressive is that before the event the organizers found the motion would have been disapproved of 57% to 30%, so there was quite a swing as a result of the arguments deployed."

Hahahaha bttt

32 posted on 03/15/2007 10:52:18 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: CedarDave

In an way they are right. Why participate in any debates, since the global elites including the Democrat party are already dead set on imposing draconian restrictions and "carbon taxes" to penalize us for causing global warming.


33 posted on 03/15/2007 10:53:32 AM PDT by Pete98 (After his defeat by the Son of God, Satan changed his name to Allah and started over.)
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To: alnitak

I'm confused by your post. I've been to realclimate.org and find it full of global warming Kool-aid drinkers. Now McIntyre and McKitrick have a site up that appears to debunk the those on realclimate. On the other hand it appears that they are equally skeptical of the AGW crowd (if AGW means "anti-global warming"). So are M&M septics of both sides? Do they have a firm position or saying we just don't know enough yet?


34 posted on 03/15/2007 10:55:05 AM PDT by CedarDave
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To: Matchett-PI

I wish I could find it, but I can't.


35 posted on 03/15/2007 10:55:11 AM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace! (Bacon bits make great confetti.))
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To: Matchett-PI

Of course. The audience must have been swayed by the 'entertaining presentation' of the skeptics, because all the 'facts' were on the side of the alarmists.

Nice to see that liberals can still rationalize away their losing a debate.

And, according to the POLL, the audience was NOT 'split roughly half/half' before the debate. Only 30% of the audience was in the 'skeptic' camp before the debate, while 46% were skeptics after the debate. That this guy can lie to himself about this does not bode well for his integrity as a 'scientist'.


36 posted on 03/15/2007 10:57:16 AM PDT by Kellis91789
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To: jsh3180
I just now realized why all the kooks are against global warming. Someone read the memo that told them "... at all costs, we must oppose GW" The next line of the memo, which was apparently on the lost 2nd page, continued: "Bush in this next election." And it just grew from there.

I think this is as good an explanation as any!

37 posted on 03/15/2007 10:57:49 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The only thing standing between us and complete victory over the evildoers is POLITICS!)
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To: Matchett-PI

great Info on thread BUMP

I have scanned this briefly.. Match... are you Gavin?


38 posted on 03/15/2007 11:01:28 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your God is!)
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To: DollyCali

Hell no! He's an Algore sycophant! What would make you think I'm him?


39 posted on 03/15/2007 11:05:55 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (To have no voice in the Party that always sides with America's enemies is a badge of honor.)
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To: Matchett-PI

Great stuff, thanks.

I wish that I had the skills to find the direct link so that people wouldn't have to wade through all of the Fox stuff to get to it.


40 posted on 03/15/2007 11:05:55 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (GW has more Honor and Integrity in his little finger than ALL of the losers on the "hate Bush" band)
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