Bill Simon (CA conservative) soothes conservatives' concerns over Giuliani

Bill Simon, an unsuccessful 2002 California gubernatorial candidate, former federal prosecutor under Giuliani and bedrock social conservative, delivered a spirited intro.

"He comforted us. He inspired us in what was one of the darkest moments in our history," Simon said, extolling Giuliani's leadership after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. "Extraordinary times cry out for extraordinary leadership, and these as such times."

"It would be fair to say that Bill Simon is using his personal cachet to vouch for Giuliani," said Jon Fleischman, a conservative Republican activist and publisher of the Flash Report political newsletter. "Giuliani is a moderate on social issues, yet Simon has been a champion to conservatives on those same issues.

"When I talk to conservatives supporting Giuliani, many of them say, 'I'm putting my faith on what Bill Simon says.' "

First he told a hotel ballroom crowded with conservative GOP delegates that his former boss was "a fellow Ronald Reagan Republican," who cut taxes, cleaned up New York and put "countless career criminals behind bars."

He said Simon explained that Giuliani opposes partial-birth abortions and tax-funded abortions and _ though Giuliani supports domestic partnerships _ he believes marriage is strictly between man and a woman.

"If he (Simon) is endorsing Giuliani, it makes some members of the conservative wing of the party feel safer," said Gaines, a Giuliani convert. "I did have concerns. But with the explanation of how he (Giuliani) would view Supreme Court appointments, I have a level of comfort."

Hunter is a liberal, yes, a fiscal liberal. But frankly, I don't think those issues are all that important for most Hunter-supporters. Hunter marchs in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha and Sherrod Brown when it comes to free trade. But do they care about his fiscal liberalism? I only see them talking about: Hunter is a liberal, yes, a fiscal liberal. But frankly, I don't think those issues are all that important for most Hunter-supporters. Hunter marchs in lockstep with Nancy Pelosi, Jack Murtha and Sherrod Brown when it comes to free trade. But do they care about his fiscal liberalism? I only see them talking about: abortion, gay rights, gun control and immigration.

Isn't it sad to see the GOP reduced to this state?

ONLY gun control, abortion, gay rights and immigration?

You mean the 2nd Amendment when you say "gun control". Only a liberal pansy ass thinks that the 2nd amendment is any more negotiable than the the other 9 amendments. You dismiss it because Rudy is PATHETICALLY anti-constitution in this matter ("hunter's rights"...yeah, that's the tickiet, not only violating the constitutional rights of NYers, but trying his damndest to put those eeeevil gun manufacturers out of bizness with his ridiculous big government, nanny state law suits. Hunter gets an A from the NRA.

You mean the sanctity of human life when you say "abortion". You dismiss it because you do not like pondering that your liberal Rudy not only supports Partial Birth Abortion (known as infantacide), but he also wants GOVERNMENT FUNDING for abortions, to make sure poor women can afford this oh so vital "right" to murder their child. When you say "gay rights", what you really mean is the radical, leftist gay AGENDA, that includes teaching gradeschool kids about anal sex, letting Tommy and Franky get married, letting Tommy and Franky adopt and raise children, shitcanning the military's prohibition on open homosexuality, classifying gays as a protected class of citizens subject to "hate crimes" (read thought crimes) legislation, and letting NAMBLA exist. Hunter opposes this left wing bile, Rudy is their biggest cheerleader, no wonder you dismiss it.

When you say immigration, what you mean is ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, which is illegal for a reason. You dismiss it because Rudy (Mr. law and order) not only supports illegal immigration, but was willing to break federal laws to protect those criminals from deportation. Hunter builds fences, Rudy builds sanctuaries.

Not only that, Hunter supporters also rightly believe that the best man for CIC right now in the WOT and the coming future confrontations with our enemies is not a non military mayor of a liberal city, but a legitimate military expert, Armed Services chairman, Army Ranger, and key adviser to multiple Presidents on matters of war. In addition, he is the ONLY one sounding the alarm bells about the chicoms evil intentions, has been an aggressive tax cutter his entire tenure in congress, has taken on the ACLU instead of coopting its radical agenda, and is a Reaganite to the core.

Trying to paint Hunter as a liberal is so patently absurd, you should be ashamed of yourself. Just because the Club for Growth loves surrendering to China, doesn't mean a true conservative would. Did Reagan want trade agreements with our enemies to give them strategic advantages?

Americans elect the government they deserve.

Americans don't even elect the government, they let the MSM and Party elites set up two bad choices, then about 30% of the loonies Plus an untold number of dead people install the government that they think we deserve.

We allow it because we don't give a crap about the purpose of the 2nd.

You seem to suffer under the delusion that whom you pick will actually change something for the better.

Note GW's South American tour this week, and the totally traitorous remarks he made in several speeches. Unless of course you believe that our Nation should no longer be sovereign. In that case then he is your guy and whomever they pick to replace him will be your guy too.

I agree, that was particularly well said. From the tone of the exchanges on this thread it looks like more heat than light, a typical rudy thread.

As a Duncan Hunter supporter I am choosing not to engage in debate on this Rudy Giuliani thread on Free Republic. As a freeper I am disappointed that there are fans of a liberal presidential candidate trying to push socially liberal views on this socially conservative forum. In particular, I have noticed that the Rudy G fans do not answer posts questioning the qualitative substance of their candidate, or the posts are met merely with insults.

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http://www.gohunter08.com/

Sam Hunter: Duncan Hunter's Ambassador to Free Republic
3/13/2007
Posted on 03/13/2007 10:11:39 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800187/posts
Sam has been answering questions, unlike the crickets we hear on rudy threads.

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Video of Rudy Giuliani in his own words
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM

Transcript of video below.

Will the real Rudy show up at CPAC?

Culture of life:

ABC clip:

George Will: "Do you think Roe v Wade was good constitutional law?"

Rudy Giuliani: "Yes I believe, I believe it is."

Cnn Clip December 2, 1999:

Announcer: "Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports."

Rudy Giuliani : "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing."

Immigration

CNN clip:

Announcer: "Back in 1996, mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants."

Rudy Giuliani: "There isn't a mayor or a public official in this country that's more strongly pro immigrant than I am. Including disagreeing with President Clinton when he signed an anti-immigration legislation about two or three years ago."

Gun control:

CNN clip

Rudy Giuliani: "I'm in favor of gun control"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "How about registration of all handguns?"

Rudy Giuliani: "You know I'm in favor of that. I've been on your show many times."

Gay Rights:

CNN Clip:

Announcer: "As mayor he supported civil unions, and extending health and other benefits to gay couples."

ABC Clip: "I supported domestic partnership legislation and signed it"

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "So should gay people be openly allowed to serve?"

Rudy Giuliani: "I think people should be judged on the merits. And there should not be a specific focus on someone's sexual orientation."

First Amendment:

ABC Clip

Cokie Roberts: "Would you vote in the senate in favor of Mccain / Feingold?"

Rudy Giuliani: "Yes, I'm a big supporter of Mccain / Feingold. I have been for a long time."

Party Loyalty:

ABC Clip:

Rudy Giuliani: "Frankly George, I'd like to run on all the lines. I'd like to run on the liberal line, the conservative line, I'd like to run on the democratic line if I could figure out how to do it."

Conservative Values:

Meet The Press:

Tim Russert: "Whether it's gays in the military, gun control, campaign finance, late term abortion - you and Hillary Clinton are in sync on those issues."

Rudy Giuliani: "Well then maybe the other side should stop the 'He's part of the vast right wing conspiracy'."

Welcome To CPAC, Rudy!

End clip.

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