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Fiction doesn't deserve a petition (great Iranian comment on 300)
iranian.com ^ | March 9, 2007 | Naz Ghassemian

Posted on 03/14/2007 11:07:55 AM PDT by SolidWood

Let us focus on the people and issues that truly matter

Nema Milaninia is right [See "The ridiculous truth"]. Iranians, especially those with "political" motivations and Zoroastrian ideals, ought to have far greater priorities than drafting petitions against 300. The fact that this movie has gathered their attention only indicates the lack of proper priorities and power these "groups" possess.

If 300 was touted as an actual historical portrayal, the outrage indicated by this petition would be valid. However, it is based on a comic book. It is the creative fantasy of a comic book genius.

The mere connection drawn by Tinoush [See: "Make a fuss"] and others only emphasizes the trouble with Iranians when it comes to the arts and literature: these are separate creative spheres that exist independently of politics and politicians!

Yes, there are Persian figures in the movie, but this is a story that was inspired by ancient war games and the imaginative savagery of ANCIENT times. Iranians would benefit (and be entertained) by handling these moments with a grain of salt and gain a bit of perspective.

I realize my suggestion might be hard to accept considering some of the issues existing in the Iranian diaspora. Just this once though, let us not judge a movie based on the religious and political issues surrounding Iranian people of 1700 years ago or now. Because no matter how many thousands of people sign this petition, it is downright silly to judge a work of fiction as a portrayal of history or Persians now.

Here is my offer for the likes of Tinoush who require parallels and links:

**SARCASM ALERT** What if a group of Carthaginians (now Tunisians) expressed outrage at the movie Gladiator because of the pain associated with the establishment of those games and all of the POWs who were forced to participate in them, essentially as slaves, following the Punic Wars? They would seem like a group of idle jackasses.

In any case, anyone who allows their view of Iranians to be influenced by a comic book or a movie is a dimwit and may also be the sort of individual who believes that Pamela Anderson's breasts are real. The likelihood of these sorts of people swaying decisions and think tanks is low.

Let us focus on the people and issues that truly matter in the recent debates about Iran. As Iranians, we have a better chance of influencing the debate about a potential war or public relations by talking about real issues, not comic book stories.

Rather than project this movie as a slice of history, drawn on native peoples around the world, I encourage Iranians (who are willing to take the risk) to relax and enjoy what is a really awesome movie and a cool story, for TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!!


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Political Humor/Cartoons; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 300; iran; persia; sparta
Unlike dozens of Iranians getting "outraged" and "riled up" by a film, some Iranians make sense and have their priorities right. It's the Islamic Regime which is the greatest threat to Persian's lives, freedom and cultural heritage... not a fictionalized film. Also don't miss this one: http://www.iranian.com/Kaviani/2007/March/Women/index.html
1 posted on 03/14/2007 11:08:01 AM PDT by SolidWood
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To: SolidWood

Pamela Anderson's breasts aren't real!? Well, at least we still have pro wrestling.


2 posted on 03/14/2007 11:14:00 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: SolidWood
Like they wouldn't be flocking to and praising a fictionalized, comic book adaptation of 9/11.
3 posted on 03/14/2007 11:14:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: SolidWood
...some Iranians make sense and have their priorities right.

Absolutely right. As I pointed out in another thread the critics are people who watch their kids being beaten in the streets daily by religious thugs and say nothing, but are mighty riled up by a Hollywood movie based on a comic book. It is they who need to re-examine their priorities.

4 posted on 03/14/2007 11:15:46 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SolidWood

How many threw a hissy fit over "The DaVinci Code"? What difference did it make? None.


5 posted on 03/14/2007 11:17:56 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: SolidWood
"Iranians, especially those with "political" motivations and Zoroastrian ideals, ought to have far greater priorities than drafting petitions against 300."

Islam has turned their minds into mush. They are incapable of rational thought. It's laughable that they, enslaved by Islam which has destroyed any Iranian "Zorestrian culture" they once had long ago, would make such feeble minded petitions against a comic book based Hollywood animation claiming it's "lack of historical accuracy", when they have no idea what the historical accuracy of Zorestrian Persian culture is, considering its practice is BANNED under Islamic law, and what remains in Iran today is nothing resembling the Persian culture that once stood there.

Persians were pracically bred out of existance under the orders of the Caliphate "many moon gods" ago. The females were enslaved to Mohammadan Arabs, the Persian men slaughtered as was the standard Mohammadan proceedure.

6 posted on 03/14/2007 11:31:33 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: SolidWood

Fiction the tale of the '300' may be, but it is rooted in historical fact. Betrayal, cowardice, and conspiracy, offset by bravery, dedication and honor, all met in the narrow stretch of road above the sea at the pass in Thermopylae. About the outcome, there was never any doubt. Leonidas and his Spartan soldiers were annihilated.

But not before they had kept the Persian forces bottled up for several days, giving the Athenians ample time to escape the city and rally defenses, culminating in the decisive defeat of the Persian navy at the Battle of Salamis (no, this had nothing to do with hurling sausages at each other). The Greeks formed a coalition, under the Spartans, and spanked the Persians one more time at the Battle of Plataea, ending Persia's attempt to expend into Europe.


7 posted on 03/14/2007 11:38:10 AM PDT by alloysteel (If you cannot bring yourself to condemn someone, at least make the praise as faint as possible.)
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To: SolidWood
I realize my suggestion might be hard to accept considering some of the issues existing in the Iranian diaspora. Just this once though, let us not judge a movie based on the religious and political issues surrounding Iranian people of 1700 years ago or now. Because no matter how many thousands of people sign this petition, it is downright silly to judge a work of fiction as a portrayal of history or Persians now.

The Battle of Thermopylae was fought in 480 BC. 2007 + 480 equals 2487 years ago! Let's do the math right.

Xerses set out to conquer "the whole world!" He spent years raising an army and building a Navy. Eventually the Greeks would prevail in part because of the heroism of Leonidas but also those who followed and emulated his courage! The Battle os Salamis is one example.

It took the likes of Jimmah Carter to overthrow the Peacock Throne! Given a chance the Iranians will throw off the chains of the Mullahs and peace and happiness will rule in Persia again!

8 posted on 03/14/2007 11:38:55 AM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Ceasar said, "quae cum ita sunt.")
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I would think the opposite of the article should be true. If you depict an actual historical event accurately, then you have no right to protest. It is what happened. If however it is fictionalized in such a way as to be offensive, ie, Fahrenheit 911, THEN you've got reason to protest.
9 posted on 03/14/2007 11:42:38 AM PDT by Boiling point (The Indians had a bad immigration policy and look what happened to them!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
Pamela Anderson's breasts aren't real!?

The parts that you'd be playing with are!
10 posted on 03/14/2007 11:54:04 AM PDT by jrg
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To: SolidWood

Proof that these people are lunatics.
They're upset with a depiction of soemthing that took place 2500 years ago..and 1200 years before Islam.


11 posted on 03/14/2007 11:54:18 AM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"Pamela Anderson's breasts aren't real!?"

Pamela, oh, I thought he said Loni Anderson. I was about to go kick his ass.


12 posted on 03/14/2007 12:33:48 PM PDT by MPJackal ("If you are not with us, you are against us.")
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