Savage pointed out that these middle aged Muslims, who tend to be more moderate, are being squeezed by radical Islam which is making inroads with younger men and with converts.
He also said that many of these radical imams barely know how to read and write, only know the Koran and thing they're geniuses and convince other people how holy and smart they tell as they compel other people's sons to strap bombs to themselves and blow up infidels.
The call screen finally woke up, apparently. LOL!
There was a story of an elderly imam who preached the Koran for several years. On his deathbed, he requested a copy of the Koran. After it was given to him, he shocked his friends and family that gathered around by saying "I reject everything in this book", he then died immediately.
I wish I could remember the name of the book. It is one of several that I have read the last two years on Islam. Many talk about illiterate imams hammering the Koran into very young children. And the children being able to recite many passages but having no idea the meaning of those passages.