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1 posted on 03/13/2007 5:25:28 AM PDT by Ouderkirk
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To: Ouderkirk

If anyone is getting "Bob Dole'd," it is the RATs with Hillary!


2 posted on 03/13/2007 5:27:00 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Prevent Glo-Ball Warming ... turn out the sun when not in use)
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To: Ouderkirk

Hmmmm! World Nut Daily! Nuff Said!


3 posted on 03/13/2007 5:27:33 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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Great article - BTTT


4 posted on 03/13/2007 5:27:57 AM PDT by Ogie Oglethorpe (2nd Amendment - the reboot button on the U.S. Constitution)
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Great article.

Just wait until Rudy's abortion-warriors come stomping over here to treat you like they do babies, though. It's definitley not what humans would call "babying" though.


7 posted on 03/13/2007 5:32:48 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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I think that McCain would be reminiscent of Bob Dole. The only thing Dole had going for him was that he was the senior Senate leader. That's the only thing McCain has going for him.


8 posted on 03/13/2007 5:33:17 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Listen, there are primaries and who ever the voters decide to be the nominee so be it. This author is an elitist who thinks that the Republican voters are too stupid to decide who they want and thus they can be easily controlled by the Republican leadership and that they will be easily deceived to vote for the candidate preferred by the party leadership. On the other hand, this elitist is telling the Republicans “Vote Hunter”.


10 posted on 03/13/2007 5:34:16 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ouderkirk

Bullseye! This article hits the mark.


20 posted on 03/13/2007 5:48:37 AM PDT by Livin_large (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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The author NAILS it...No, the author tenderizes it!
25 posted on 03/13/2007 5:51:39 AM PDT by Obadiah (Yes, I do question Democrat's patriotism.)
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To my mind, this opinion piece represents the worst sort of political spin.

Rudy has not been "anointed" by anyone.
Rudy is a high-profile candidate.
Rudy is known throughout the country only as "America's Mayor", and a hero of 9/11.
Rudy's home base is in media-capital New York.

Given those facts, why is anyone surprised that he gets a lot of press? But the beneficiary of some insidious back-room deal to anoint the party's nominee? Pure political anti-Rudy spin, to my mind.

Who did NOT expect Duncan Hunter to show well in South Carolina? But who DID expect a northeast social liberal like Rudy to run neck-and-neck with a pure Conservative?

To my mind, the only conspiracy theory here is the one being perpetrated by Massey. There is plenty of time for Rudy's warts and skeletons to erode his popular support, and if there are enough of both he will be denied the nomination. So be it. I will vigorously support WHOMEVER my party nominates [oddly enough, this makes me a troll or an anti-conservative. Who knew?]

And I have another question, not answered in the column anywhere that I can see. Why? Why Rudy? To my mind, this whole conspiracy theory is a house of cards. A ruse, in it's own way, to perpetrate the idea that Rudy's popularity is a chimera; that the momemtum he is building has no grass roots support. I think neither is true.

What I do think is that hard-core Conservatives are shocked that Rudy's stance on social issues have not torpedoed his Presidential ambitions already. I understand that confusion - I'm a bit confused by that myself; I thought the party would be much less tolerant of Rudy's past statements about gun control and abortion.

Apparently, however, like me, the first and TOP priority to most Republicans SO FAR, is beating Hillary/Obama and the Islamic extremists. Social issues take a back seat; we can deal with them later.

Jusy my two cents.


35 posted on 03/13/2007 6:06:56 AM PDT by StatenIsland
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Bob Dole is a great American. During the 1996 campaign he was funny, witty and right on about the issues BUT...his age was clearly a negative. And it wasn't age discrimination we are talking about but real physical risk we are talking about.

When he said to the effect that he would serve one term, that did it for most people, he was finished.

Still Bob Dole came within a few percentage points of unseating the Clintons. The Clintons never got more than 50% of the vote.

But the author here is right about GOP leaders sticking it to the party members in 1996. They should have realized they had a losing candidate in Dole and instead promoted Forbes for the sole reason of giving him more national exposure and a platform to broadcast his positions. Although Forbes had a bit 'goofy' presence, he was indeed one of the sharpest candidates to come along to the GOP since Reagan, much sharper than GWB. His stage presence could have been worked on and his appeal to general voters could have been developed had the GOP leadership invested in his marketing.

Right now we need a very sharp, articulate and strong presence candidate.

Fred Thompson.

http://draftfredthompson.com/index.php?board=3.0


41 posted on 03/13/2007 6:15:33 AM PDT by Hostage
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Thank you for posting this. More Republicans DON'T want Rudy as their candidate than do - poll after poll shows this to be the truth. Grade school level mathmatics tells you that Rudy is not a popular candidate with most conservatives.

Most Republicans will not vote for Rudy in the primaries.

Rudy supporters need to stop trying to intimidate people into supporting their candidate by singing that one-note song about "if you don't vote for Rudy - you get Hillery". Give that song a rest - it is not convincing anyone.

CONSERVATIVES DON'T VOTE FOR LIBERALS - WAKE UP PEOPLE.


44 posted on 03/13/2007 6:19:50 AM PDT by alicewonders (I like Duncan Hunter for President in 2008!)
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Rudy is far worse than Bob Dole. As are John McCain and Mitt. I've never seen a lesser trio of front runners. Mitt is the only one I might be able to hold my nose and vote for. Maybe.


45 posted on 03/13/2007 6:21:28 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: Ouderkirk; WhistlingPastTheGraveyard; Ultra Sonic 007
Hunter, in classic fashion responded, "You know, I woke up to ... one of the commentators saying that the only reason that Hunter beat all those guys in South Carolina is because his Marine son has been there for a week. Well, I looked down at that army of consultants – everybody who was vertical in South Carolina was hired by the other guys – and I said, 'You know, that is a good match-up: One Marine versus 550 consultants.' We did have the advantage!" (From Hunter's speech given at Conservative Political Action Conference, Washington, D.C., March 3.)

I sure do like this man.

46 posted on 03/13/2007 6:21:52 AM PDT by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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I'm on record here as saying that I will not support Rudy Giuliani in the GOP primaries, but would vote for him in the general election if he were to win the nomination.

That being said, I fail to see why this writer, and others, keep making such a big issue of him dressing in drag a couple of times at the New York Inner Circle press dinner, where politicians and the press deliberately do silly things like acting in skits, roasting each other, etc., to raise money for charity.

There are plenty of substantive issues I disagree with Rudy Giuliani on. Him dressing up like a woman in a skit with Julie Andrews 10 years ago doesn't rate very high on my give a ca-ca meter.

In the immortal words of the late, great Warren Oates from "Stripes" ... "lighten up, Francis."

47 posted on 03/13/2007 6:22:07 AM PDT by GB
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Now, I'd like to see the media and the GOP armada of talking heads consistently acknowledge that there are a dozen other candidates, and only one of them a true conservative.

The last thing World Net (nut) Daily has any ability to do is to identify a "true conservative".

50 posted on 03/13/2007 6:24:35 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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The GOP forced Bob Dole on the conservative voter base because "it was his time" and "he earned it". The GOP is doing the same thing again with McCainiac and the Rudster because "it's their time" and "they've earned it." GOP be forewarned. Don't try this failed approach again or you will reap the same result in 2008.


55 posted on 03/13/2007 6:31:21 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (After 20+ LONG years, a REAL conservative I can support 4 President - DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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Only problem is, Dole actually had some conservative credentials in his resume. That's how far the GOP brass has drifted in 10 years, to now tout a flaming liberal as the best choice.


62 posted on 03/13/2007 6:44:31 AM PDT by pissant (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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Well, I looked down at that army of consultants – everybody who was vertical in South Carolina was hired by the other guys – and I said, 'You know, that is a good match-up: One Marine versus 550 consultants.' We did have the advantage!"

And THAT is the difference between Duncan Hunter and Rudy McRomney.

Hunter is an American -- the other three are media creations.

77 posted on 03/13/2007 6:58:21 AM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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I could vote for Hunter with pleasure.

Thompson has but to throw his hat in the ring to get my consideration.

I could even hold my nose and vote for McCain.

However if we are going to have a democrat in the whitehouse it should be one with a (D) after their name, not an (R). I will not vote for Rudy under any circumstances.

80 posted on 03/13/2007 6:59:38 AM PDT by LibKill (RudycRAT is lying his way to power. Look at his record. He's 100% DemocRAT.)
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While I agree candidates beyond the three aren't getting much attention, this is in no way "Bob Doling". Like it or not, Rudy is a popular guy and I don't think the media has manufactured much of that. Bob Dole never had any of the charm or appeal that Rudy has. He was pretty much offered up as a sacrificial lamb. He was the elder statesman -- we "owed it" to him and Clinton was going to win anyway. Dole was pushed despite the fact that he couldn't win. Rudy is being pushed precisely because he can win.
87 posted on 03/13/2007 7:08:13 AM PDT by soccermom
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