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GOP leaders: Don't 'Bob Dole' us again
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3-13-07 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 03/13/2007 5:25:25 AM PDT by Ouderkirk

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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Well most Freepers think their stories are tabloid like in nature. Not much that they say is based on hard evidence.


81 posted on 03/13/2007 7:00:14 AM PDT by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: Ingtar

Tell me who is preventing people form voting for Duncan Hunter? I do not see the Republican Party campaigning for any candidate. If Duncan Hunter represents the majority of Republican voters then he should win, it is a simple as that. Or do you and the author of this article want the party leadership to push the nomination of Duncan Hunter? What exactly do you want?


82 posted on 03/13/2007 7:00:26 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas
No matter how you spin it, Rudy Giuliani overall is far, far, far better to be President than any other democrat nominee.

On that point, we agree.

Doesn't mean I don't want someone better to be the nominee. Doesn't mean that it's "Either him or Hillary," as so many have said here recently.

83 posted on 03/13/2007 7:02:47 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Vote for Duncan Hunter in 2008)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Do you think that Rudy Giuliani is a mass murderer who should be sent to jail? Should he be tried and executed? Would like to do a citizen arrest against Rudy Giuliani?


84 posted on 03/13/2007 7:05:06 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; mhking

It depends on the subject.

This same excellent, conservative author has been praised for his writings in the past: on Islam & CAIR, against Jesse Jackson, against slavery apologists/reparations, against abortion, in favor of John Roberts for SCOTUS, against entitlement-minded parents.

When he goes after RINOs, which he has always done, well, the source is dismissed instead.


85 posted on 03/13/2007 7:05:31 AM PDT by cgk (I am emboldened by my looks to say things Republican men wouldn’t. - Ann Coulter)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007
Doesn't mean I don't want someone better to be the nominee. Doesn't mean that it's "Either him or Hillary," as so many have said here recently.

Agree 100%. I think the good Republican and Conservatives should fight it off during the primaries and then whoever “the Republican Voters” elect to be the nominee, then every good Republican and Conservative should vote for him because whoever is the Republican nominee he will be far, far, far better than any democrat nominee.

86 posted on 03/13/2007 7:07:35 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Ouderkirk
While I agree candidates beyond the three aren't getting much attention, this is in no way "Bob Doling". Like it or not, Rudy is a popular guy and I don't think the media has manufactured much of that. Bob Dole never had any of the charm or appeal that Rudy has. He was pretty much offered up as a sacrificial lamb. He was the elder statesman -- we "owed it" to him and Clinton was going to win anyway. Dole was pushed despite the fact that he couldn't win. Rudy is being pushed precisely because he can win.
87 posted on 03/13/2007 7:08:13 AM PDT by soccermom
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To: areafiftyone

The post this thread is based on is an opinion piece so it really doesn't matter what your opinion of WND's journalism is, does it?


88 posted on 03/13/2007 7:09:28 AM PDT by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: Ouderkirk
The article makes a good point, but I don't attribute it to any conspiratorial effort to limit choices. It is all about money and getting your message out. McCain, Giuliani, and Romney have the money and name recognition. They are sucking the air[and money] out of the other candidates.

The second tier candidates will have an opportunity to present their cases at the Presidential debates. Unitl then, it will be an uphill struggle for them to raise money and increase their visibility. Money is the Mother's milk of politics and there are only so many teats available.

89 posted on 03/13/2007 7:11:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Point taken, and well stated.


90 posted on 03/13/2007 7:12:57 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: kabar

"The second tier candidates will have an opportunity to present their cases at the Presidential debates."

Assuming they are allowed to participate.


91 posted on 03/13/2007 7:15:30 AM PDT by crude77
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To: jveritas
and very strong on defense and national security, and he is a great leader to fight the war on terror, the most paramount issue of our time.

What do you base this opinion on?

No matter how you spin it, Rudy Giuliani overall is far, far, far better to be President than any other democrat nominee.

Won't argue that, but there are far far better Republican candidates in the field. Also, I find it humorous how you say than any other democrat nominee, implying Rudy IS a democrat nominee. LOL!

92 posted on 03/13/2007 7:17:17 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (There are 2 types of Rudy fans - the uninformed or anti-conservative TROLLS who do not belong on FR)
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To: Ouderkirk
I had to hold my nose to vote for Dole. He was the most unqualified and useless candidate I had ever had the misfortune to have to vote for. I was astounded that my party put up such a looser. I hope we learned our lesson from that stupid time. Of course what we got was four more years of a serial rapist and thief.
93 posted on 03/13/2007 7:25:36 AM PDT by Lewite (Praise YAHWEH and Proclaim His Wonderful Name! Islam, the end time Beast-the harlot of Babylon.)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
My opinion is based on his leadership during 9/11 and his continuous and very strong support for the war on terror and his strong support for national defense and national security.

Also, I find it humorous how you say than any other democrat nominee, implying Rudy IS a democrat nominee. LOL!

The key word here is nominee not candidate, yes if Rudy Giuliani is the Republican “nominee” he will be far better than any democrat “nominee” whoever is this.

Listen, if you think Duncan Hunter represents the majority of Republicans and Conservatives then he is going to win the nomination there is no doubt about it, but it seems that you have almost zero confidence in this, and that is why your are so agitated in your postings.

94 posted on 03/13/2007 7:26:04 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: MACVSOG68

"The last thing World Net (nut) Daily has any ability to do is to identify a "true conservative"."

So tell us who the real conservative in the race is.


95 posted on 03/13/2007 7:26:36 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: crude77
I hope that is not too big of an assumption. Once we have an opportunity to see the candidates side by side and hear their positions on the issues, there could/will be some shifts in public opinion. We still have a long way to go and there will be some surprises.

The other day the WP ran an article about how difficult it is for someone from the House to become President. Historically, it is very rare indeed. I often wonder what the hideen political agenda is that spawns these articles. Sort of like the articles that came out during the Clinton-Monica scandal, i.e., everybody lies about sex and sometimes lying is a good thing so as not to offend someone. The MSM would like to narrow our choices to who they think are viable.

96 posted on 03/13/2007 7:26:48 AM PDT by kabar
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To: jveritas

Please explain to me how someone can be strong on National Security and yet went before the Federal Court to prohibit law enforcement from questioning a persons legal status? In my opinion you cannot have National Security and open borders at the same time. Also, how do you know he will be a great leader in the time of war? What is his experience with the military? Being in charge of NYPD and FDNY is quite different than being CIC. I agree that Rudy did a fine job after 9/11 but how does that equate to fighting the WOT? What exactly is his plan for fighting the WOT? What will he do about Iraq? Iran?


97 posted on 03/13/2007 7:27:49 AM PDT by panthermom (DUNCAN HUNTER 2008)
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To: Lewite
I was astounded that my party put up such a looser

The Republican voters voted for Dole in 1996 to be the party nominee, it was not some type of a conspiracy by the Republican leadership to make him the candidate.

98 posted on 03/13/2007 7:28:38 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jveritas

I believe that if Rudy wins the nomination, he will lose the general as his real record gets more play. And that even if he wins, he destroys the coalition that created a Republican Party where we all could have won. Now those pushing Rudy on this site seem to be doing their best to push out social conservatives as unneeded. This is not a winning strategy. When given the choice between Dem and Dem Lite on these social issues, the Reagan Democrats vote Dem and the socially conservative Republicans and evangelicals will probably not allow their revulsion of Hillary outweigh the revulsion they will have for Rudy once they truly understand his positions. At best, they will sit things out. The anti-Hillary Dems would have to make up the numbers lost. How can people expect there to be that many that would vote Republican?

And this all assumes that Hillary is the nominee. If it is Obama or Richardson, there won't even be the fear factor to get them in line.


99 posted on 03/13/2007 7:30:28 AM PDT by Ingtar (...right wing conservatives are growing tired of crawling on bloody stumps looking for scraps - JRob)
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To: jveritas

"Giuliani is not my favorite guy but if he is the party nominee, every good Republican and conservative should vote for him because no matter what the other party candidate will be far, far, far worst."

On what issue?


100 posted on 03/13/2007 7:30:32 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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