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Britain forced Galtieri into invading Falklands[?]
The Telegraph ^ | 3/13/2007 | Sophie Arie in Buenos Aires

Posted on 03/13/2007 12:48:56 AM PDT by bruinbirdman

Britain forced Argentina to invade the Falkland Islands, the members of General Leopoldo Galtieri's family said yesterday in their first interview since the 1982 conflict.

The widow and children of Argentina's former military ruler claimed that the war was engineered by Britain to avoid negotiations that could have led to the loss of sovereignty over the islands.

Speaking to The Daily Telegraph in the Buenos Aires apartment where Galtieri lived with his wife Lucia until his death in 2003, his son Carlos said: "I am convinced the English wanted the conflict to happen. They had realised they were going to have to negotiate (under the aegis of the United Nations). So what did they do? They made Argentina look like an aggressor."

A UN resolution was passed in 1965 asserting that the Falklands constituted a colony and calling on Britain and Argentina to negotiate. But the 1982 conflict extinguished all hopes of negotiations.

After weeks of growing tension, Argentina sent a force to occupy Port Stanley on April 2, 1982 and, in the weeks that followed, Margaret Thatcher, the prime minister, sent a task force to win back the islands. By the time Argentina surrendered on June 14, 255 Britons and 655 Argentinians had died. But the family insists that the widely accepted version of events - in which Galtieri figures as a wicked, drunken dictator who started a war to distract an increasingly discontented nation - is wrong.

"History is written by the winners. But the losers know the truth," said Mrs Galtieri, sitting alongside her son.

Vilified after the war, which led to the collapse of the military junta in 1983, Galtieri refused, until his death, to speak publicly except to say he had "no regrets".

After a "period of respect" for his father, his son explained, the family had decided to speak now, only on the subject of the Falklands, weeks away from the April 2 anniversary of the beginning of the conflict.

"I think that after 25 years it is time to start talking about this again, to seek a solution," said Carlos.

"Now is the moment to take action to see if it is possible to resolve the last example of traditional colonialism that exists in Latin America."

Using coffee table ornaments and a pot of plastic tulips to demonstrate movements by both countries around the islands, the family claimed that Britain deliberately overreacted to the arrival of a group of Argentinian scrap workers on South Georgia in March 1982, creating a diplomatic stand-off and a military build-up that left Galtieri with "no option" but to invade.

If Galtieri had accepted the British demand that the workers have their passports stamped to remain on the islands, he would effectively have been dropping Argentina's 150-year-old claim to sovereignty over the islands the Argentinians known as Las Malvinas, they said.

"He rang me in the morning to tell me they had recovered the Malvinas," remembered Mrs Galtieri, smoking nervously as she spoke.

"I thought, 'My husband is a patriot. The last in Argentina'."

The general, the family said, was an honourable military man who felt a duty to defend the Argentinian belief that "Las Malvinas son Argentinas" (The Malvinas islands are Argentine).

"He had no regrets. He had a clear conscience," said Carlos.

The family laughed at the idea that Galtieri had used the conflict to stay in power amid growing public protests. Galtieri would have preferred to have focused on plans to return the country to a democratically elected government within two years, they said.

"He never wanted to be president," the whole family shouted, one voice rising over another.

"He was not a politician. He was a military man. But he accepted the job because he felt it was his responsibility."

Few Argentinians sympathise with the Galtieri family or share their views.

Like many other military leaders, until his death Galtieri risked abuse or egg throwing if he ventured out of his home.

Once democracy was restored in 1983, Argentina's military leaders were pursued for human rights abuses during the seven-year-long dirty war. Galtieri served five years of an 11-year sentence for "mismanagement" of the Falklands conflict before being pardoned by then president Carlos Menem. When he died, he was under house arrest for alleged involvement in the abduction of babies born to detained dissidents.


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To: KellyAdmirer
That is a pretty weird position. So no Argentinians ever visited the Falklands by getting their passports stamped by the British in all those 150 years? I find that quite difficult to believe. The Argentinians provoked the conflict, the British simply insisted on normal protocol.

Even weirder. The "scrap dealers" went nowhere near the Falklands. But they refused to get their passports stamped on entry to South Georgia, an island not part of the Falklands/ and never visited/claimed/settled by the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata(Spanish) or the United Provinces of the River Plate(Argentine) in the 19th century.

It was that raising of the Argentine flag on South Georgia combined with the refusal to submit to entry provisions which was a clear declaration of occupation of undistputed British territory.

21 posted on 03/13/2007 4:46:54 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (for those in Rio Linda, there's conservapedia)
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To: bruinbirdman
The widow and children of Argentina's former military ruler claimed that the war was engineered by Britain to avoid negotiations that could have led to the loss of sovereignty over the islands.

What? No Jews were involved?

22 posted on 03/13/2007 5:36:21 AM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: bruinbirdman; FairOpinion
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23 posted on 03/13/2007 5:46:49 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: bruinbirdman
I hate when my country's dictator is such a monumentally moronic, idiotic, stupid buffoon of a clodpole that he is maneuvered into committing unprovoked aggression against another country, and gets overthrown as a result.

I hate it even worse when I am related to the schmuck.
24 posted on 03/13/2007 7:14:33 AM PDT by Cheburashka ( World's only Spatula City certified spatula repair and maintenance specialist!!!)
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To: bruinbirdman

Maggie used the old jedi mind trick on them. Of course it only works on the weak minded.


25 posted on 03/13/2007 7:14:48 AM PDT by xp38
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To: bruinbirdman
Ladies and Gentlemennnnnnnnnnnnn

IN this corner we have young, badly trained conscripts backed by little air power and so poorly equipped as to make a sane man cry.

IN this corner we have Royal Marine Commandos (3, 45 and 40/42), Gurkhas (1st of the 7th), Royal Parachute Regiment and units from the SAS. Royal Navy units include nuke subs and surface shipping.

Frankly the Argentinian troops were so badly equipped as IMO to connoted a war crime from their 'leadership'.
26 posted on 03/13/2007 9:33:10 AM PDT by ASOC ("Once humans are exposed to excellence, mere average desirability is disappointing")
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To: bruinbirdman

I call BS on this.


27 posted on 03/13/2007 9:35:25 AM PDT by alarm rider (Why should I not vote my conscience?)
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To: bruinbirdman
Boo-hoo, boo-hoo. He started something he couldn't finish and got beat up by a girl (Maggie Thatcher).
28 posted on 03/13/2007 9:41:48 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: bruinbirdman
Boo-hoo, boo-hoo. He started something he couldn't finish and got beat up by a girl (Maggie Thatcher).
29 posted on 03/13/2007 9:42:01 AM PDT by Ukiapah Heep (Shoes for Industry!)
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I guess France and Britain made Hitler invade Poland.

No, the Poles did that when they took over that radio station in Gleiwitz. /s

30 posted on 03/13/2007 9:43:58 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: bruinbirdman

Another instance where UN meddling causes more problems than it solves. THe Falklands was British and no third party pack of socialist politicians has the right to say otherwise.


31 posted on 03/13/2007 9:45:04 AM PDT by BuffaloJack
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To: bruinbirdman

This article is stupid. Only the Security Council can issue binding U.N. resolutions and the U.K. has a permanent seat (with veto power) on the S.C. Thus the United Nations can never force the U.K. to do anything and the whole premise that the U.K. was about to be "forced" to negotiate with Argentina is nonsense. Shame on the Telegraph for not pointing out that these Argentine jackasses are talking hooey.


32 posted on 03/14/2007 12:21:30 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ASOC

Dont forget:

The Scots Guards
The Welsh Guards
The Blues and Royals

lol


33 posted on 03/15/2007 1:25:40 PM PDT by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman
There are more than a few pages on the conflict, down to units, equipment and order of battle.

One lesson I leared from study and talking to the RM that briefed my unit was NEVER F* with Royal Marines. The actions taken after the inital surrender (some 5 RM pulled a SERE action and later provided intel on AG forces)provide a classic example of iniative and RM grit.

Bottom line -

One Marine as he headed up the ramp, gave an Argentine guard a parting shot that would come true in 72 days' time. "Don't make yourself too comfy mate, we'll be back."

34 posted on 03/15/2007 2:08:34 PM PDT by ASOC ("Once humans are exposed to excellence, mere average desirability is disappointing")
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